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MrsGuinevere

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NOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOORE BOSSESSSSSSSS

YOU WANT TO KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL AND WANT IT DIFFICULT - THEN FIND A GAME THAT
ONLY
FOCUSES ON KILLING.

As another player this week mentioned ONLY A SELECT few of you like Bossing! (a lot of us don't care to boss nor do we have the abilities to successfully kill a boss. Not everyone can multi task and handle the mechanics of some of these bosses)

STOP FORCING bossing onto the REST of the rs community.

Bossing is NOT how rs started, nor does it need to be over powered with them.

NOOOOOOOOOO MORE BOSSES.

Go find a killing ONLY game.

10-Sep-2019 12:44:07

Fire Hawk154

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S 1 M O N said :
IMO the issue isn't the lack of content, but the quality and how Jagex aims to actually rebuild the community feel to the game.

Minigames are just a no-no in current vein. The existing ones are all dead content, any time they've tried to reinvigorate them they just fail, and within weeks most worlds are empty. Just look at Shattered Worlds.

They need to stop focusing on the PvM and work on bringing gear to mini-games, or creating gear that you can't trade but have decent stats either way. Ports was a good idea, but obviously is exclusive to you. Even if they just created a mini game that offered 'kits' to upgrade various things, that would be fine.

The problem with minigames isn't just rewards. Fist of Guthix used to be a great competitive minigame especially in F2P. Most of us already bought all the rewards but kept on playing to compete with others and gain ranks on the hiscores. Then Jagex booted F2P from the hiscores (which was 60% of the top 1000) which made lots of players quit. They screwed it up again by changing run mechanics which resulted in almost infinite run energy which downgraded the meta. They made runecrafting gloves (the main reward for F2P players) useless due to runespan which resulted in an even smaller regular crowd. Then EoC came out which was and still is very unpopular amongst PvPers. Removing the XP from attacking people as well made sure all the lower levelled players left. And then Jagex wonders "why does nobody want to play this minigame?" They screwed it up update after update themselves. I don't think minigames can be saved at this point, because Jagex doesn't have the skills and knowledge to do so, plus they already drove the minigame communities away to other games.
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10-Sep-2019 12:56:34 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2019 12:57:56 by Fire Hawk154

keggyyy

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MrsGuinevere said :
NOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOORE BOSSESSSSSSSS

YOU WANT TO KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL AND WANT IT DIFFICULT - THEN FIND A GAME THAT
ONLY
FOCUSES ON KILLING.

As another player this week mentioned ONLY A SELECT few of you like Bossing! (a lot of us don't care to boss nor do we have the abilities to successfully kill a boss. Not everyone can multi task and handle the mechanics of some of these bosses)

STOP FORCING bossing onto the REST of the rs community.

Bossing is NOT how rs started, nor does it need to be over powered with them.

NOOOOOOOOOO MORE BOSSES.

Go find a killing ONLY game.


Agreed. Unfortunately rs3 is copying what other games do which is pvm content. Just like mxt, pvm attracts new players to the game.

10-Sep-2019 16:15:56

Hupw
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@Griphook
Forcing people to play content that would otherwise be dead is literally Jagex's entire job.


no it isnt. jagex's job is to create compelling content and monetize it. if people dont enjoy the content they arent going to play it. consider livid farm, the minigame is 24 hours long and gives the best pvm spells in the game (group venge, disruption shield, borrowed power). people still dont play it. since they released traveling merchant many people would rather pay 50m and wait 6 months than play livid farm for a weekend.

Would anyone do PvM if the drops sucked?


yes. I have done close to 200 solak duos and haven't got a single drop worth over 10m. i also did 1000 aod keeps kc without a single rare. i might also mention that castle wars has players on spotlight, players who arent making any gp from it.

requiring an understanding of unique mechanics and strategy to leverage them, more so than simply spamming the right abilities at the right time.


friend, you arent even maxed combat, you haven't actually reached the point where you can partake in real pvm. spamming abilities with no strategy or understanding of ability rotations works fine for a 1:20 vind kill, it doesn't work so great against telos. try a 100% telos for me will you? then try a 500% practice mode telos, spam your abilities and see how far you get. H̸̛͘͠Į̸̛͜͜

10-Sep-2019 19:06:46 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2019 19:20:41 by Hupw

Hupw
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Hupw

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MrsGuinevere said :
NOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOORE BOSSESSSSSSSS

YOU WANT TO KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL AND WANT IT DIFFICULT - THEN FIND A GAME THAT
ONLY
FOCUSES ON KILLING.

As another player this week mentioned ONLY A SELECT few of you like Bossing! (a lot of us don't care to boss nor do we have the abilities to successfully kill a boss. Not everyone can multi task and handle the mechanics of some of these bosses)

STOP FORCING bossing onto the REST of the rs community.

Bossing is NOT how rs started, nor does it need to be over powered with them.

NOOOOOOOOOO MORE BOSSES.

Go find a killing ONLY game.

hi. as i stated in a previous post over 98% of updates have nothing to do with high level pvm. what are you complaining about? you already have 98% of the updates do you want 99%? can you leave some updates for the rest of the people who want the endgame progressed? maybe you're fine with a stagnant endgame with glacial progression but some of us see the rapidly declining playerbase and want jagex to follow in the footsteps of other very successful MMORPGs by pushing the endgame and releasing some high tier boss raids. jagex has been more or less doing exactly what you want for going on 3 years and and the average players per month has dropped from 32000 to 18000. maybe it's time to move in a different direction? H̸̛͘͠Į̸̛͜͜

10-Sep-2019 19:18:48

Vengeance of
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Vengeance of

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Griphook said :
Vengeance of said :
SandyHorizon said :
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I think you hit the nail on the head here. Nine consecutive weeks without a content update really isn't acceptable for a subscription-based game. What are we subscribing for, anyway? This is exactly why I only sub for a month or two a year, there's just not enough content to warrant playing longer.

That being said, I love Anachronia, even if it does feel a bit lifeless with the lack of examines and side quests - and quests are really the one area that Runescape shines over other games. Just about everything else, there are other games that do better. But quests are always interesting and funny, and they're what keeps bringing me back to the game.

I quite like Anachronia too, to be honest, and I'm sure it has plenty of growth in the cards with the current plot arc. But I don't think it's enough to carry the game on its back for ~3 months, possibly longer depending on how October shakes out, with the biggest other new addition being a loot collection log that totally isn't recycled from the existing boss collection log.

I mean, I'm okay with patch weeks, even a few back-to-back if there's a good justification for it, but like you say, nine consecutive weeks is a bridge way too far, especially when there's no end in sight beyond the aforementioned log.

I don't think we're asking for too much-- most of us aren't asking for big quests every month or a steady drip-feed of new, complex bosses, just something every couple of weeks that spices things up, even a tad.

10-Sep-2019 19:31:46 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2019 19:32:32 by Vengeance of

Xelxius
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Strontium2 said :
"Don't let the ******** grind you down!" Keep up the pressure Blackwing, keep holding them to account every week! I am in my 15th year playing and i never thought i would witness 2 months without a proper new update. You voice the valid concerns of many players, and i look forward to your comments, harsh but fair!

I mean, if he had anything to say beyond "OMG another patch week?!" every time something comes out, regardless if it's a patch week or not, then maybe his opinion would be worthwhile.

People don't tend to listen to the same BS that offers nothing constructive week after week after week.

10-Sep-2019 20:26:38

Griphook

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Hupw said :
Would anyone do PvM if the drops sucked?


yes. I have done close to 200 solak duos and haven't got a single drop worth over 10m.

I was talking about drop potential, not the actual drops you get. Solak can drop blight c'bows, which are a very lucrative reason to kill him.
There will always be gamblers, but if there's nothing worthwhile to gamble for, the gamblers will move elsewhere.

Hupw said :

requiring an understanding of unique mechanics and strategy to leverage them, more so than simply spamming the right abilities at the right time.


friend, you arent even maxed combat, you haven't actually reached the point where you can partake in real pvm. spamming abilities with no strategy or understanding of ability rotations works fine for a 1:20 vind kill, it doesn't work so great against telos. try a 100% telos for me will you? then try a 500% practice mode telos, spam your abilities and see how far you get.
Here we go. Friend, I have no desire to partake in "real pvm." Why would I want to grind out my combat levels to max just so I can grind them out more on some bosses? The fact that the bosses you mention require such twitch timing with abilities is exactly my point. That's not even remotely my idea of fun. Which, I might remind you, is the primary experience most players want from any game, including Runescape. Fun. Not drops. Not grinding. Jagex might have stats that tell them players go where the money is, but players stay where the fun is. Were that not the case, Runescape wouldn't even bother having minigames in the first place.
People keep asking me why I'm not maxed, and honestly, at this point, it's mostly so that I'm not just another one of the PvM-obsessed drones. Why don't they just play Monster Hunter: World or something with actual fun PvM mechanics, anyway?

11-Sep-2019 00:13:04

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