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Luckyluke91
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@solivagus

What if I only have full subjugation and a chaotic staff? Dont judge a book by its covers.
250k dpm with 25% increase is still 200k dpm without the 25%... which equals a 1m 5 minute gem... Im 100% sure now... elitist you are. As a comparison I have 780k gems and I can manage absolutely fine... if you want to murder magister that quick to not enjoy the fight, its fine... but dont expect everyone to be able to do the same as you do with your 1m gems.

And yes... I have the mole title, enjoyed it too! KBD I do not enjoy that much, but Barrows is love and life! I enjoy every kind of PVM, the low and the high ones... but I am usually excluded from teams by people like you ("omg no 800k gem, you're not welcome!)

Another example: I really like Rise of the Six, but do not expect 30 kills per hour trips with me... 20 is max and fine! My motto is: it doesn't matter how you kill it, it matters that you kill it. My first Araxxi ever was 17 minutes and 21 seconds and I was proud as *peep*. It matters that I achieved something ('The famous' back then for comp cape).

If you can prove me wrong about you being elitist, please do... until then... yes I disagree with you no matter what you say... I hate elitism!

11-Sep-2019 10:01:22 - Last edited on 11-Sep-2019 10:02:24 by Luckyluke91

Luckyluke91
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Griphook said :
Hupw said :
S 1 M O N said :
IMO the issue isn't the lack of content, but the quality and how Jagex aims to actually rebuild the community feel to the game.

Minigames are just a no-no in current vein. The existing ones are all dead content, any time they've tried to reinvigorate them they just fail, and within weeks most worlds are empty. Just look at Shattered Worlds.

They need to stop focusing on the PvM and work on bringing gear to mini-games, or creating gear that you can't trade but have decent stats either way. Ports was a good idea, but obviously is exclusive to you. Even if they just created a mini game that offered 'kits' to upgrade various things, that would be fine.



so minigames die immediately and you want them to focus on minigames by shoehorning gear into them to force people to play content that would otherwise be dead? also, what gear are you talking about? we have tank and dps gear available for extremely cheap at any tier below 92, which the exception of maybe tectonic which might be a bit pricey for some people.

Forcing people to play content that would otherwise be dead is literally Jagex's entire job. Would anyone do PvM if the drops sucked? People go where the money is, and where the gear is, so making minigame rewards more lucrative is a great idea that might actually revitalise them. And personally, minigames are a hell of a lot more fun to play than PvM bosses. They're also more nuanced than just pure combat, requiring an understanding of unique mechanics and strategy to leverage them, more so than simply spamming the right abilities at the right time.


Well said friend, well said!

I can still remember the cry about stone spirits! They nerfed your gp/h and all the PVM community did was cry to remove them!

#KEEPSTONESPIRITSALIFE they are a good drop actually! And if you're lucky enough to not roll them, good!

11-Sep-2019 10:04:49

Luckyluke91
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MrsGuinevere said :
NOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOORE BOSSESSSSSSSS

YOU WANT TO KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL AND WANT IT DIFFICULT - THEN FIND A GAME THAT
ONLY
FOCUSES ON KILLING.

As another player this week mentioned ONLY A SELECT few of you like Bossing! (a lot of us don't care to boss nor do we have the abilities to successfully kill a boss. Not everyone can multi task and handle the mechanics of some of these bosses)

STOP FORCING bossing onto the REST of the rs community.

Bossing is NOT how rs started, nor does it need to be over powered with them.

NOOOOOOOOOO MORE BOSSES.

Go find a killing ONLY game.


Also very well said. However I would not mind some more Elite Dungeon like bosses or GWD2 like bosses. Stuff that basically everyone can do (even with low gear)

I found some numbers that 20% of the RS community is PVM community. 5% of that community is doing Telos (so 1% of all community). And 1% of the Telos community is having warden (so 0.01% of everyone). Do we need more hard Telos or Solak like bosses then? I don't think so!

Anachronia has room for a nice Elite Dungeon themed around dinosaurs, probably in the mountain northwest of the base camp :D !

11-Sep-2019 10:07:42

Hupw
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@Griphook
I have no desire to partake in "real pvm." Why would I want to grind out my combat levels to max just so I can grind them out more on some bosses?

uh, for fun and money and to improve at a giant part of the game? it also improves reflexes and planning skills, hand-eye coordination and it forces you to strategize on the fly and probably some other things too. try stepping outside your comfort zone.

The fact that the bosses you mention ... not even remotely my idea of fun.

were you aware that runescape is an MMORPG when you made your account? MMORPGs all tend to have a massive PVM component to it. this is kind of like playing minecraft and refusing to craft, or playing chess and refusing to move back-row pieces, or eating a stew and leaving the meat and potatoes behind.

Which, I might remind you ... where the fun is.

are you seriously suggesting that drops are not fun? people hunt for drops for the same reason people sit in gambling halls putting coins in a slot machine. you get a dopamine rush when you get big pay-out and you get the same thing from getting a super rare drop. who are you to tell people they are or arent having fun when they are killing bosses? there seems to be a pretty big chunk of the playerbase who kills bosses and i dont think they would be doing it if they were actively disliking their experience.

People keep asking me why I'm not maxed, ... PvM-obsessed drones.

it sounds like you are cutting off your nose to spite your face and making some sweeping generalizations about a pretty big part of the playerbase based off of very little information.

Why don't they just play Monster Hunter: World or something with actual fun PvM mechanics, anyway?

yeah, ive played monster hunter, one of my favourite action game series. hey, have you tried one of those idle mobile games or facebook farming games? based on what you told me they might be right up your alley.

:( ran out of characters so just imagine your parts are in green
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11-Sep-2019 20:51:45

Hupw
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@Luckyluke91

If you can prove me wrong about you being elitist, please do... until then... yes I disagree with you no matter what you say... I hate elitism!


so what im getting here is that you are working backwards from your conclusion and purposely being a contrarian because you have prejudged me to be an elitist based on the fact that i like high level pvm. That's really pathetic, man. you should save this conversation we had in notepad or something and read it back to yourself in a few years.

but I am usually excluded from teams by people like you ("omg no 800k gem, you're not welcome!)


people don't want you on their AOD team because your refusal to play at a high level is going to sabotage the team. for example, if you did duo solak with someone, your lack of dps would get them killed on lockdown every single attempt and your refusal to improve would mean you never get past the first dps check. I don't know, man, maybe if you didn't treat personal improvement as a negative you wouldn't get excluded so much.
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11-Sep-2019 21:11:26 - Last edited on 11-Sep-2019 21:11:56 by Hupw

Luckyluke91
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Hupw said :
@Luckyluke91

If you can prove me wrong about you being elitist, please do... until then... yes I disagree with you no matter what you say... I hate elitism!


so what im getting here is that you are working backwards from your conclusion and purposely being a contrarian because you have prejudged me to be an elitist based on the fact that i like high level pvm. That's really pathetic, man. you should save this conversation we had in notepad or something and read it back to yourself in a few years.

but I am usually excluded from teams by people like you ("omg no 800k gem, you're not welcome!)


people don't want you on their AOD team because your refusal to play at a high level is going to sabotage the team. for example, if you did duo solak with someone, your lack of dps would get them killed on lockdown every single attempt and your refusal to improve would mean you never get past the first dps check. I don't know, man, maybe if you didn't treat personal improvement as a negative you wouldn't get excluded so much.


Typical that you are not replying on the calculations I did... You know that 1m gems are ridiculously high right? 780k (what I have) is already above average. And no Im not refusing to play high level pvm, Im refusing to put big sweat drops on my head which makes it less enjoyable. Even if I get a high drop from Solak/AOD its not giving me a 'dopamine rush' because of the energy it cost me to do the boss... Im tired after an hour an need to lay down.

You and your elite friends are the reason people like me are not enjoying AOD/Solak. If we would be allow to do casual kills, we might enjoy the content.

Griphook already was spot on in his comment, so Im not gonna repeat it. I hope you are seeing that its you vs 10 others at the moment on this thread. which means its 1:10 people who like high end pvm : who do not like high end pvm.

Good Luck w/life

11-Sep-2019 22:22:38

MrsGuinevere

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uh, for fun and money and to improve at a giant part of the game? it also improves reflexes and planning skills, hand-eye coordination and it forces you to strategize on the fly and probably some other things too.
it's NOT a giant part of the game but you and others like you want it a giant part of the game, as you NEVER satisfied with the bosses you have been given so far. As you said, you kill the bosses, once mastered you are bored. NOT everyone has the co ordination to boss (& never will), you do understand that right? as for gp, there is tons that can be done WITHOUT bossing and can be fun


were you aware that runescape is an MMORPG when you made your account? MMORPGs all tend to have a massive PVM component to it.
So where again were those bosses when Runescape started? Slayer is wonderful PVM. Slayer provides plenty of variety for PVM and you can make gp as well have fun


are you seriously suggesting that drops are not fun?
No one said drops are not fun, what we are saying is: drops don't have to come from a complicated bosses (or NEW BOSSES)


who are you to tell people they are or aren't having fun when they are killing bosses?
who are you, to force us to boss


People keep asking me why I'm not maxed, ... PvM-obsessed drones.
There is the truth. you are obsessed, so the rest of us should too. :@


it sounds like you are cutting off your nose to spite your face and making some sweeping generalizations about a pretty "SMALL" part of the playerbase based off of very little information.
Sounds more like you are doing that with US



sounds to us like you NEED a killing ONLY Game. Time to start looking into that, instead of chewing out the RS community and jagex for not getting your fix, because to us it's clear you NEVER be satisfied in bosses they may released- its like a drug to you, never enough

12-Sep-2019 00:00:39 - Last edited on 12-Sep-2019 00:04:10 by MrsGuinevere

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but I am usually excluded from teams by people like you ("omg no 800k gem, you're not welcome!)


your quote: people don't want you on their AOD team because your refusal to play at a high level is going to sabotage the team.
for example, if you did duo solak with someone, your lack of dps would get them killed on lockdown every single attempt and your refusal to improve would mean you never get past the first dps check. I don't know, man, maybe if you didn't treat personal improvement as a negative you wouldn't get excluded so much.[/quote]

You and your elite friends are the reason people like me are not enjoying AOD/Solak. If we would be allow to do casual kills, we might enjoy the content.


Griphook already was spot on in his comment, so Im not gonna repeat it. I hope you are seeing that its you vs 10 others at the moment on this thread. which means its 1:10 people who like hi[/quote][/quote]

uh, for fun and money and to improve at a giant part of the game? it also improves reflexes and planning skills, hand-eye coordination and it forces you to strategize on the fly and probably some other things too. try stepping outside your comfort zone.


Solivagus-Contradicting your own words. So you (all) want ppl to get good at bossing, learn the mechanics and love bossing, but refuse to teach the community how to do it BECAUSE OF YOUR GREED AND TIME SPEND. The truth is you bossers are selfish and greedy and think you all high and mighty.
Instead of becoming teachers and leaders you just think me me me and shame all others. It's all about me me how dare the rest disapprove of you and your opinions.

Luckyluke is right; you smell like an elitist who wishes us to kiss you and yours alike ----to kiss your shoes. yes my king how shall I serve you

12-Sep-2019 00:36:41 - Last edited on 12-Sep-2019 00:39:06 by MrsGuinevere

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