RuneScape Forum Archive | Polling Changes

Mod Ayiza

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This thread is to discuss the recent Polling Changes blog, which can be found here .

27-Oct-2022 14:37:26 - Last edited on 27-Oct-2022 14:47:59 by Mod Ayiza

Oct

2005

Lewis Shoot

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This is the single worse newspost we've had in Old School RuneScapes history. This isn't simply just some content that's being changed, it's a fundamental step away from the foundations this game was built on. It's clear disrespect to the community this game is for and it's a victory for all the toxic behaviour the game has received over the years.

I can't say I'm surprised given the disrespect the polling system has received recently. Instead of using it to bring the community together, influencers from streamers to j mods have weaponised it to divide and conquer for their own desires.

Whilst this isn't a complete disregard for the system it's a step in the wrong direction. Stretching those divisions within the community that will eventually lead to the death of the system and the game.

Whilst this newspost tries to peg this change as good for the long term health of the game, I can assure you this is anything but. RIP Forums

Finally we have signatures in the surprise forum update. I'm Lewis, I play Old School & I've been playing since 2005.

27-Oct-2022 15:36:08

Oct

2005

Lewis Shoot

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The only good thing I see here is the changes to your ways of working. It reminds me of how you used to work: Polling a change and then work on it.

The problem with that was the pressure you felt to release quickly. Then you got into this weird set of working on something before it was polled. This is how we got into this mess and I don't understand why such sweeping changes to the polling system themselves are necessary for you to try this. RIP Forums

Finally we have signatures in the surprise forum update. I'm Lewis, I play Old School & I've been playing since 2005.

27-Oct-2022 15:41:46

Sep

2018

Dangermouth

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I'll keep this short, simple and in English: a clearly, demonstrable, retrograde step that is indicative of a number of negative changes that will no doubt occur further down the line such as you will ultimately destroy what there is of this game that makes it something that those who have played it for over a decade and reduce it to the mind and soul-numbing trash that is that preodominantly put out by those who follow the Hollywood mantra of "Slurm, slurm, slurm".

If you want to change the polling system or have people vote in this do it in different ways and perhaps stop quoting incessant realms of what is quite clearly flannel in an effort to make yourselves 'sound good'. More and more the reaction to you is one where the negative reaction is clearly that which is correct and the one that is instantly felt.

I'm now off to play RS (this game) while it still exists.

27-Oct-2022 18:00:28

Jul

2006

Feldip

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This polling change without a poll is completely unacceptable and I reject any and all reasoning for it. Just develop the damn game and stop making everything so ridiculous on purpose. You're almost slower than rs3 when it comes to releasing new content.

Just skimmed through the list of what you will and won't poll and the won't poll section is at least 3 times longer than what you will poll.

Joke of a company!

27-Oct-2022 22:10:35

4ev

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I don't know why there's so much negativity on this being posted, probably because of the amount of effort it takes to log in to even post on these forums, deters people who don't feel strongly about it from posting...

Anyway, I think the change makes sense. The first poll is feeling the waters, more or less, seeing how people feel about the idea. The second poll is about the implementation, after the concept has been fleshed out a little.

I think this will actually benefit OSRS, especially if you come up with some way to get a "why this failed" for things that fail the secondary poll, and reshape the concept a little.

A perfect example I can think of is the minigame shop, which was polled and passed, but all the rewards failed, way back in 2013 (still not implemented btw...)

The concept was good, but the implementation of the idea was poor, because all of the proposed rewards fit much better into other aspects of the game, and had nothing to do with minigames.

If there was a way to take in the feedback as to why it failed, the developers would know how to rework the idea, and be able to reshape into something the community would accept.

This has great potential to be a huge win for OSRS, but like everything else, it needs to be done correctly. I think just making it a 2 step poll is not what should be done, but you should actually make the secondary poll a little more detailed when players are putting no. This way, you can see the main reasons why people disagree.

Categories for disagreeing (can choose multiple):
Overpowered
Dead on Release
Doesn't fit Lore/Oldschool Feel
etc. Castle Wars in Theme - A few minor changes to fix cheating
Cross Minigame Reward Shop - Polled December 26th 2013
Mobile Improvements and Ironman PvM Solution

27-Oct-2022 23:33:15

Dec

2011

Draco Burnz

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Lewis Shoot said :
This is the single worse newspost we've had in Old School RuneScapes history. This isn't simply just some content that's being changed, it's a fundamental step away from the foundations this game was built on. It's clear disrespect to the community this game is for and it's a victory for all the toxic behaviour the game has received over the years.

I can't say I'm surprised given the disrespect the polling system has received recently. Instead of using it to bring the community together, influencers from streamers to j mods have weaponised it to divide and conquer for their own desires.

Whilst this isn't a complete disregard for the system it's a step in the wrong direction. Stretching those divisions within the community that will eventually lead to the death of the system and the game.

Whilst this newspost tries to peg this change as good for the long term health of the game, I can assure you this is anything but.

+1

Theres clearly a reason why the poll requirement has been such for so long as it shows that a majority of player do/dont want something.

So lowering it by even 5% shows that even less ppl want this than the "majority".

Draco Burnz

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Defender of the logical

28-Oct-2022 01:35:02

Dec

2011

Draco Burnz

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Feldip said :
This polling change without a poll is completely unacceptable and I reject any and all reasoning for it. Just develop the damn game and stop making everything so ridiculous on purpose. You're almost slower than rs3 when it comes to releasing new content.

Just skimmed through the list of what you will and won't poll and the won't poll section is at least 3 times longer than what you will poll.

Joke of a company!

Exactly.

Last time this was going to happen AFAIK, it obviously got polled.

So why it isnt this time is baffling.

Draco Burnz

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28-Oct-2022 01:35:59

Apr

2022

Haehernfeder

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Very happy with most of the polling changes however the one thing that bothers me are the "Asset Visuals and UI/Graphical Enhancements:" not being polled. In recent polls like the Toa masori poll or the wilderness weapon polls there clearly is interest in deciding what designs make it into the game. While im not sure if that is really what was mend here i would feel like that is the only huge downgrade if the community is no longer allowed to have a say in what weapon designs(visually) make it into the game as rewards

28-Oct-2022 09:03:56

Mar

2024

Karmafox

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I’m surprised to see such a negativity here. Perhaps the concept needs a few tweaks but overall, I think it’s a good idea. Maybe the way how polling and the production was in the past is different, but it’s no big deal if the mods are transparent in their way of working these days. There often are some questions about what to poll and how to make them, therefore a fixed polling chart sounds amazing to me. Just to be crystal clear about things. I’m not very happy about the 75 to 70 percent, but I can understand why this change can be important.

In conclusion, I’m happy with this blog and I feel being heard and taken seriously with these shared details in understandable texts.

28-Oct-2022 12:18:25