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The Mystick

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You see, you have the problem right there, how do we make it so the pure skillers can still use them, quests like legends or Fremmy trials will get in the way of that.

We need some lengthy quest requirements so that they will be less populated with bots, I think you should not cater updates to skillers and pures.
I am in total agreement, the game should not revolve around skillers and pures, especially when they are in the minority now.
They chose to be level 3 skiller or pure knowing of the restrictions that would be placed upon them.
All you skiller hating noobs can shove it. I'm CB 120 and I still support my skiller friends. Game doesn't revolve around PKers either but they think they're the center of the world. Yeah.. skillets knew that these agi courses would come out.. RIIIIGHT

Skiller haters have existed forever but to bring it into 07 is silly. Most longterm rs3 players r now maxed accs and very few remained lvl 3\4. 07scape has given us all a chance to become maxed lvl 3's without making stupid mistakes. Some limitations make being a lvl 3 super fun, but dont limit us from a SKILL update.

30-Nov-2013 19:17:07

The Mystick

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There are no additional stats for the Graceful outfit other than the weight reduction. There are no requirements to wear it either. So, skilling pures can enjoy it too.

Exciting. I love new items/outfits, so as a level 3 skiller (not a very good one though, mind you) this makes my day. :)

Looking forward to this very much. Both the courses and the outfit look amazing. Kudos to the '07 team.

The xp rates look fine to me. The '07 team knows much more about balancing than I ofcourse, so I fully trust their judgement in regards to xp rates.

No lvl req for the cloths? Sound like most new coarses should remain open to ALL players. Skillers and Cmb'ers alike :) Lets all skill TOGETHER Like it should be! :D

30-Nov-2013 19:20:29

Gamma Girl

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lmao whatever you do, don't put stupid quest requirements on them. Especially quests that require/give combat xp.
so what if level 3s can now train agility faster? as long not training a skill doesn't provide a benefit, it shouldn't be a problem.

Agreed. I understand the lvl 3's with 99 agility alrdy will be mad but think of the ppl in Rs3 who worked for yrs to get 100m+ rc xp b4 runespan came out. Noone has spent that much time even playing 07 yet so the damage is negligible.

That whole argument about devalued past achievments is kind of stupid to be honest. That's like people in the olympics who made world record years ago when athletic science wasn't as good. Do you see them getting angry when people break their record do to scientific advance?

30-Nov-2013 19:31:56

I Am Squishy

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Graceful hood - 20 marks per KG
Graceful cape - 30 marks per KG
Graceful top - 30 marks per KG
Graceful legs - 26.66 marks per KG
Graceful gloves- 6.66 marks per KG
Graceful boots - 7.5 marks per KG

Possibly balance the prices a bit better?

30-Nov-2013 21:17:24

Lord Speed

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lmao whatever you do, don't put stupid quest requirements on them. Especially quests that require/give combat xp.
so what if level 3s can now train agility faster? as long not training a skill doesn't provide a benefit, it shouldn't be a problem.

Agreed. I understand the lvl 3's with 99 agility alrdy will be mad but think of the ppl in Rs3 who worked for yrs to get 100m+ rc xp b4 runespan came out. Noone has spent that much time even playing 07 yet so the damage is negligible.

Actually, what perturbs me more than anything is that there is no longer a reason to quest or sub-goals associated with agility anymore. It's just a personal opinion of mine that I think the best content should be highly regarded and that those who don't put restrictions on themselves should reap the most benefits. It's sort of the same concept as to why I don't think pures should have adamant gloves.

I was really pushing for the highest level roofs to be in Lletya on prior threads. It would still make it quite a bit faster for level 3's but it gives those players who aren't trying to fit a special mold and earned it an advantage. I find it unfortunate because I thought Lletya was an awesome spot for the absolute best agility content. I think this update encapsulates all levels already though and an even higher level course than 90 may be a stretch**

**;DR
It's okay to let people access areas with minimal requirements and see a nice experience boost. However, reserve the best and most highly regarded content for players who have "earned" it.

30-Nov-2013 21:28:31

The Mystick

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lmao whatever you do, don't put stupid quest requirements on them. Especially quests that require/give combat xp.
so what if level 3s can now train agility faster? as long not training a skill doesn't provide a benefit, it shouldn't be a problem.

Agreed. I understand the lvl 3's with 99 agility alrdy will be mad but think of the ppl in Rs3 who worked for yrs to get 100m+ rc xp b4 runespan came out. Noone has spent that much time even playing 07 yet so the damage is negligible.

Actually, what perturbs me more than anything is that there is no longer a reason to quest or sub-goals associated with agility anymore. It's just a personal opinion of mine that I think the best content should be highly regarded and that those who don't put restrictions on themselves should reap the most benefits. It's sort of the same concept as to why I don't think pures should have adamant gloves.

I was really pushing for the highest level roofs to be in Lletya on prior threads. It would still make it quite a bit faster for level 3's but it gives those players who aren't trying to fit a special mold and earned it an advantage. I find it unfortunate because I thought Lletya was an awesome spot for the absolute best agility content. I think this update encapsulates all levels already though and an even higher level course than 90 may be a stretch**

**;DR
It's okay to let people access areas with minimal requirements and see a nice experience boost. However, reserve the best and most highly regarded content for players who have "earned" it.

So doing a 2-3 hr quest is "earning" special treatment but doing hrs after hrs of agility to get to higher lvls isnt? A Skill update should be for ppl who like skills, but if a quest is req'd, maybe make it skiller freindly. Just cuz its open to skillers, doesnt mean its "easy" content

30-Nov-2013 21:47:11

Lord Speed

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Yes, ultimately it is a 2-3 hour quest that requires a lot of time to prepare for. There are other quest requirements and skill requirements. Legends may be a quest that last a few hours but if you ask someone with a legends cape I'll assure you they'll tell you it took them much longer.

30-Nov-2013 21:51:17

The Mystick

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Yes, ultimately it is a 2-3 hour quest that requires a lot of time to prepare for. There are other quest requirements and skill requirements. Legends may be a quest that last a few hours but if you ask someone with a legends cape I'll assure you they'll tell you it took them much longer.
i dont dispute that it takes awhile to get quest req's. That is one of the main purposes of skills afterall is for quests req. but since this agility update is new content, tieing it into an old quest would be sloppy. a new quest however would werk rather well and it could still be skiller freindly. win win for all. unless u strickly do not want skillers at the new agil coarses. it should have atleast a few bot slowing req's added.

30-Nov-2013 22:01:57

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