RuneScape Forum Archive | Equipment Rebalancing Changes

Mar

2024

Don Jern

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Are you even reading the feedback ? clearly not!

The first post on rebalance feedback was 85 out of 100 AGAINST NERFING

The fact that you have added alot of useless nerfs in the hope of getting players focus elsewhere is very obvious

All the players who agree with the blowpipe nerf are either maxed gear or burned out already so they won't even benefit from this at all!

how about you show stats when you're not in maxed gear? because the players who need it AREN'T IN MAXED GEAR! but the reason you don't do that is because then you really see the effect of the nerf! GG

Well at least WoW TBC is on its way soon

good luck jamflex

26-Jan-2021 16:15:56 - Last edited on 26-Jan-2021 16:48:33 by Don Jern

Jun

2019

T1m3 2 Die

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You haven’t listened to the community at all. First of all there was 60+ pages of players asking for polls. Changing the game in this way is so forced. Your survey on Twitter was 10k people. How many people vote on the regular polls? 50k plus? You’re using some survey where half the players don’t even use Twitter. In this new blog you have hardly changed anything and kept your original ideas. Still no polls. Same nerfs. How are you even working with the player base? The game has been designed by a player suggested poll base where we had the power for the future of the game and now we don’t.

26-Jan-2021 16:16:40

Nov

2018

LeanFavaBean

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I understand the blowpipe needs nerfing but to cut it in half just seems insane. It is the onle reasonably cheap range weapon that is accessible to alot of the playerbase to partake in higher end content. As most of the others are prohobitively expensive so inaccessible to alot of people. Then to also nerf the darts making only rune and dragon have reasonablely high stats when rune is almost 20x the cost of adamant. Seems like you are only catering to the hard core and rich playerbase nevermind the people who dont have the time to grindfor an arma crossbow or a tbow

26-Jan-2021 16:17:45

Aug

2008

Alterans

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Uncertainty will destabilize the trust you folks built up over the years with OSRS.

What's next? Seriously what's next?

This isn't a game integrity issue. This is a group of people making a unilateral decision. You're fooling yourselves if you believe it's a game integrity issue.

The game will slowly die if you continue with this course of action.

This needs to be voted on. Every single proposal needs to be put to a vote. No compromises will help you maintain the trust you still have with the community.

26-Jan-2021 16:19:17

Aug

2008

Alterans

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Jagex should humbly withdraw this proposal.

Being humble isn't a sign of weakness. Only the strong can be humble. The lack of ability to do something doesn't make one humble or meek.

Only those with power who decide not to react with force are truly humble.

26-Jan-2021 16:19:37

Jun

2020

V i n h y

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Pretty horribly done on the changes, TBH... Now, constructive conversation below.

The community is upset about BP being nerfed not only due to existing balance but how inaccessible your nerf will make game content. Your gentle step back on an extreme nerf is far too greedy on your end. You guys aren't even polling HOW MUCH the community wants it nerfed by. You polled if they want it nerfed, and then you blew it way out of proportions. Ask them. Provide 5 different nerf points (show us numbers, show us everything) and poll it. You can force a nerf based on game integrity/future game health, but let the community decide how extreme the nerf should be. Set effects have been poorly done due to requirements of slayer helmets, gear swap feasibility, etc! I would not enjoy being unable to mix and match tops/bottoms to make switches easier for casual hybrid gameplay. Do you expect your playbase to use 8-way switches? Is that healthy? Ironmen can't even feasibly obtain the crystal gear in a reasonable timeframe.

TBOW is extremely hard for people to get, did you even consider that? Even for normal accounts, roughly 1b is way too much. You are assuming everyone has access to it when it's really only the highest level players. Blowpipe is the bridge to content for people who want to experience the game's bosses. Especially for ironmen, this is true. Ironmen have no easy way to get TBOW. Blowpipe makes it at least feasible to try and grind out the TBOW.

Faceguard remaining the same with prospect of more difficult basilisks is a good plan.

Dragonhide, I think you are missing a very important balance change that you could do: keep blessed d' hide stats the same. Keep those at it's current game state and reduce the power of regular d'hide. That would give PKERS what they want, without overly nerfing general use of d'hide, becuase it's a cool nondegradable option that you are definitely taking away right now.

Please hear this out, especially the BP and DHIDE suggestion.

26-Jan-2021 16:19:45

Iron Robsham

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"Let's create an adversarial pvp system that sets two parts of the community against each other. Then let's continually nerf the ability of one side to survive, exclusively to the benefit of the other side. Oh, and also it screws their gear for pvm."

"Genius! They'll love this!"

"Wait, why does nobody on the 'prey' side of the equation want to play pvp???"

"Don't worry, we have another wildy rejuvenation coming up in a couple of months, we can just pack it full of overpowered integrity destroying pvm and skilling content, they'll love that!"

"Wait, why do they hate us? I don't understand!?!" Anyone requesting updates to make ironman easier should be renamed wannabe-man and have their ironman icon replaced with a dunce hat.

26-Jan-2021 16:20:28

Mar

2024

Neko Inori

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I agree with this man. Where is our poll? THIS is our game, we built what it is now, and yet your trying to take that away from us by forcing these on us? Excuse me when osrs started yall said you would keep it so we had the power for everything through polls, and yet your going back on your word here? This is kinda dumb.

26-Jan-2021 16:20:47

kobowabo

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The nerf to the BP seems reasonable when you put it in DPS. 10% isn't as bad as I was thinking when I saw the first post. Glad that there will be some variety in best range set up. Future BiS equipment ought to also have special effects (like twisted bow) that make it niche and not the best for all situations.

The dragonhide armor nerf still seems extreme. IMO the magic defense shouldn't go down and the melee going down 40% is a bit extreme. Maybe 30% is reasonable? If you're concerned about D'hide armor being used with other attack styles, maybe put a negative melee bonus or up the negative magic bonus?

The solution to Dinh's bulwark is to introduce some high-level content where you have to tank hits for some benefit. Some examples of lower lvl content for this are the ZMI alter and the Abyss. Maybe make it for clue scrolls or some heavily guarded runite rocks or something and make it a no-prayer area. Or a heavily guarded special runecrafting altar that gives additional xp/runes for higher-levels (e.g. death and above). Or an arena where the goal is to stay alive as long as possible (as you do other tasks to collect points) and you get rewards for how long that is.

For Personal Bests, I think it would be good to keep track of all-time personal bests and yearly personal bests. Every year there is going to be new equipment or slight tweaks that are going to mess with personal bests. This would be a future-proofed fix.

26-Jan-2021 16:21:13

Iron Nyst3

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Ehh Still in my opinion, u mess up range, by nerfing Blowpipe while offering nothing..... Crystal bow and armo yea gl 300 shards per set for 2500 charges that can burn in half of the day, while collecting 300 shards takes 10x longer.... you rly like to fk up Ironmans...... You're nerfing sth leaving nothing in exchange for non-mains accounts. still Seercull useless, Balista Useless (except pvp), throwing weapons useless, bows too weak (even with 92 mining req. Amethyst arrows), Tbow and DHC op but both blocked after end game content in drop rate that can take months, and at the end of the day Iroman account are left with Rune/Dragon/Arnadyl crossbow for like 90% time of their gameplay. and its gonna be like before, everyone will be using melee over range cuz of the sh*tty dps that range offers (except Tbow, DHC in some areas) Maybe now nerf mage and everyone will be forced to use melee almost everywhere like it was before. 95% of ppl training slayer will be using melee (except bosses like Kraken,Dks) yea that will make game soooo interesting. Rly this Ironman account will be my last, Wont cr8 any other/new account when I will get bored of it I will hope to the other game, Rly I dont like the direction of which OSRS is going to.

26-Jan-2021 16:25:51

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