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Sir Elbore

Sir Elbore

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Once again Jagex shows they dont care about player feedback. 40% decrease in dps against vorkath that must have made you laugh when you wrote that. As an ironman i now no longer have a viable way of killing vorkath unless i want to spend 100hrs trying to get a shitty dragon crossbow.

08-Feb-2021 17:59:53

jundemto0

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crazylegs2 said :
honestly jagex, you have such a great game, but your management of the game is just so awful. please be more creative, make more gp sinks. make the bp drop rate a little harder, add the necessity for gp to recharge the bp (nothing drastic). I think we all want to see small changes rather than large. AND ADD STUFF TO MAKE SKILLING MORE BEARABLE! LIKE DISTRACTIONS AND DIVERSIONS.


They wouldn't need to change BP drop rates if they actually did something about Zulrah bots. It's funny how I can see hundreds of them in a day while I run Zulrah, but somehow they're invisible to Jagex.

09-Feb-2021 02:49:17 - Last edited on 09-Feb-2021 02:50:40 by jundemto0

Birch wood

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Notes on PVP and equipment rebalance

The price of entry into PVP is too steep. You can’t get a kill without having equipment which takes a long time to get (torso, void, fire cape, ballista, defender etc). Coming back to RuneScape I at least knew what I was up against but for beginners who want to try PvP, they can’t hope to get a kill. I understand that they won’t be as skilled and so mightn’t get a kill for that reason but with accounts who risk torso etc for the price of a rune plate body, something seems off.
TLDR: you need to grind for untradeables in order to stand a chance pking which negatively affects uptake of new players into PvP.

Full disclosure, I have a lvl 80 rune pure and lvl 50 1 def pure.

I am in favour of pretty much everything in the blog regarding equipment rebalancing. At first I thought “nooo” don’t take away my black, but on balance I think that it probably has been too strong for too long. One problem here though is void not being nerfed along side black dhide. This will further widen the divide between new players giving pking a go and the hard core pking account with powerful/untradeable armour. Result: PvP eventually distilled down to players with absolutely optimum gear (if it’s not there already)

My main irk is my first point regarding uptake into PvP of fresh/new players. My controversial solution would be to have untradeables lost on death. PvP is not about hitting 40 instead of hitting 30. It’s about having fun and being able to find a fight. For this we need heaps of people pking which means you need to level the playing field a bit.

Finally, a story: my first time pking back in 2009 or so, i was fighting a ranger who followed me out of the GE in PvP. We fought, I lost, but it felt fair. He was an experienced pker, I was a main, but we both had armour we were prepared to loose.

My 2c

24-Feb-2021 18:49:16

Dray Jr
Feb Member 2020

Dray Jr

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I had 2 RS accounts from 2002 through 2012 that were members that I supported for many years. I quit the game for both when EOC was forced on me a paying member.
I went on to other things until a friend said that the old Runescape was back, but you would have to start from scratch.
Well I wanted to play old Runescape again, so I bought 1-year annual subscription, which was around February or March 2020 and I renewed for another 1 year annual membership in February 2021.
I won’t beg Jagex like last time when they forced us to accept the stupid EOC, especially a paying customer. I will simply quit and never return.

P.S The grind was very hard to get where I got to for the 2 RS accounts and now this old school Runescape account. You may own the game but we paying members support it monetarily. Watch out we don’t bail and leave you with Non-Members playing OSRS. Fix the graphics and bring back the OSRS mini-games, but don’t mess with the weapons and gear. Please!!!

04-Mar-2021 20:54:33

Minion36
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Minion36

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Well, I LOVE the changes to level requirements.
Changes to low-level equipment balance also looks solid.
My main concern is that many of the nerfs seem a tad... overzealous?(d'hide, Dinh, Blowpipe). I can't help but worry they'll end up just as underpowered as they are currently overpowered.

Still, I haven't tested anything, so it's not like I couldn't be wrong.

08-Mar-2021 09:50:36

Sir Kainoth
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Sir Kainoth

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As someone who plays both Old School and RS3 and thoroughly enjoys OSRS, PLEASE DO NOT MAKE SUCH A HUGE CHANGE. LEARN FORM YOUR MISTAKES.
While I learned to enjoy eoc, they made too many changes all at once and didn't listen to the players. It's no secret why osrs has more players even though it is the younger of the two games (technically) When I'm on rs3 I often find myself in this place or that place such as in Seers Bank or Fally and think back of how busy and full of people it was, now all ghost towns. If fact rs3 everywhere is one big Ghost town except on dxp weekends. MTX keep it all going. I could go on...
The point is Don't, just don't.
EOC aka rs3 = make changes, don't care what players think.
osrs = Ask Players what they want, they are the ones who keep the game going.

EOC - people hated the change, people quit.
Don't go down that road again. Don't make Old School eoc 2.0

Add new stuff into the gaps don't nerf things that have been in use for years to make room.
If it's about PKers just add a new weapon with a spec that counters the bp or item that can render it less effective. Maybe a prayer that lessens it's effectiveness. As far as cost of upkeep lower scale drop rate or make it not have a chance to not use a charge. There are ways to do things w/o over doing it. Seems to me this is the big one most people don't want or do want nerfed.

You know it wouldn't pass a poll so you don't poll it. That is what they did a long time ago stopped polling they players.

09-Mar-2021 09:37:52 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2021 10:02:47 by Sir Kainoth

Mr Asian Guy

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It is cute listening to all these little girls whining about changes that will marginally change the game like it is an EOC type change. Just stop lol, let these people make the changes that is going to help the long-term health of the game.

No one gives a damn your 75 attack med or pure is going to be ruined. Get better.

11-Mar-2021 06:01:36

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