RuneScape Forum Archive | Equipment Rebalancing

Mar

2022

Instazome

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While I am still nervous about the precedent and rhetoric of "combat triangle balancing" and proposed changes to fundamental parts of the game from before OSRS, I appreciate the update today. Please remember the importance of this iteration of the game being community-led, and I promise the game's longevity and gradual community growth will be best if the community majority (rather than a small subset) is listened to.

Anyway, thanks for the update today. I felt so disheartened and akin to 07/12 last night, and the post today makes me feel quite a bit better.

22-Jan-2021 16:43:16

Mar

2022

Instazome

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As others noted, one of the biggest issues with this was the silent original post and Twitter for a survey. Please don't make that the new norm, especially for something as fundamental and gamechanging as this.

22-Jan-2021 16:44:16

Mar

2022

Instazome

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Also, I may be the minority, but at least many of us don't mind having a versatile BIS weapon like BP or Whip. Again, this game is meant to be "oldschool" not necessarily about having a variety of metas, etc. Let the game grow slowly, we don't need to hurry this. Things are going well, and the community continues to grow. Let's not sabotage for presumed future issues.

However, again, I appreciate the post from today

22-Jan-2021 16:46:34

Oct

2022

t1m3wast3

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For players who are new, the change of the blowpipe would be unfair in my opinion. Since they need to fight all their fights (specially pvm) without it. Also if one is aiming for personal best times with a boss, the nerved blowpipe makes this impossible. The other changes I can see reasonable. If something should be done to nerf the blowpipe, why not introduce a new boss where the blowpipe is nearly useless. Thanks for the consideration

22-Jan-2021 16:48:51

Dec

2023

Dex Faith

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I really liked the originally proposed equipment rebalances. They made sense; I agree that the crystal bow should be better than the blowpipe, and dragonhide shouldn't be the only armor used in pvp. And I also like where the twisted bow currently sits... I don't feel it's overpowered as it's only useful against high-level bosses and they're still difficult to beat. I am concerned with the latest post as I spent A LOT of timing saving up ~1 billion gp for my twisted bow, and I would hate to see it nerfed beyond prayer bonus. Please remember that while mods have had to face the brunt of the negative feedback from players, many players do agree with the originally proposed changes but these players are less likely to give feedback.

22-Jan-2021 16:53:50

Dec

2023

Dex Faith

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I really liked the originally proposed equipment rebalances. They made sense; I agree that the crystal bow should be better than the blowpipe, and dragonhide shouldn't be the only armor used in pvp. And I also like where the twisted bow currently sits... I don't feel it's overpowered as it's only useful against high-level bosses and they're still difficult to beat. I am concerned with the latest post as I spent A LOT of timing saving up ~1 billion gp for my twisted bow, and I would hate to see it nerfed beyond prayer bonus. Please remember that while mods have had to face the brunt of the negative feedback from players, many players do agree with the originally proposed changes but these players are less likely to give feedback.

22-Jan-2021 16:53:52

Oct

2016

Cereal First

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Ultimately I hope you listen to you player base, we have a lot of ideas and we are here to help you and push you in the right direction on these kind of updates and changes. Have FAITH that we know enough about our game to make the right choices when given sensible option, doubting your own players is the downfall of many games, don't let it be the downfall of yours.

22-Jan-2021 17:00:46 - Last edited on 25-Jan-2021 17:25:25 by Cereal First

bostonbb2g

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The changes negatively affect everyone with combat stats over level 40. Anybody without max gear will have a way harder time bossing and obtaining max gear. The average player won't be able to get into the end game. The neitiznot faceguard will become worthless.
The changes to low teir weapons (bronze through rune) might help low levels. If changes need to be made for pvp find a way to make them without destroying pvm.

22-Jan-2021 17:13:32

Nov

2022

spellwrought

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I've wanted the equipment rebalancing (without EoC) since 2004

Going to focus on lower tier "new player experience" gear.

This would be a great opportunity to make longswords nearly as good as scimitars.
As you know, longswords (even dragon) have a negligible +3 slash and +2 crush def bonus, but slower attack speed makes them awful compared to scimitars.

In my engineers opinion, making longswords have same speed as scimitars would be a great improvement for new player's equipment proggression. As changes they could have stab and str bonus of 1 lower than scimitars have. They would be the stab variant but with very slightly lower offencive stats and +2/+3 defences. (only reason to not make them as good is that scimitars have become so iconic to the game).

ps: great job on nerfing the blowpipe. Ironmen being expected to grind zulrah for hours without alternatives is very restricting and not really fun for anyone. Also as someone into medieval weaponry, it hurts me to have a blowpipe be the best weapon in game. Waiting for group ironman.

22-Jan-2021 17:13:53 - Last edited on 22-Jan-2021 17:37:48 by spellwrought

crane

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i strongly encourage jagex to reconsider these nerfs and equipment level requirement changes.

As a 1 defence pure with 75 attack thats recently stepped away from pking, my account would have an end game pvm weapon (rapier) taken away from me. i would have to get more attack levels to use it, increasing my combat level, making my pure less competitive within its pvp combat bracket should i decide to go back. this is upsetting after my incredibly tedious grind on a specialty account such as mine. please dont punish people who dont care for a cookie cutter main account and made the pure of their dreams!

please i urge you to show restraint and at very MOST put this up for a poll because i know most folks i interact with in game on a daily basis will not let it pass. i actually took to world 2 falador in a sad, yet barbarically-nostalgic last ditch attempt to make my voice (among others) heard. this seems like the place everyone has always gone when our game is going to be changed in a way we dont like.

the folks that make the effort to sit there in protest autotyping in their leisure time on the game are those who care the most and should be listened to.

If these changes go through unpolled consider my subscription canceled.

thank you for reading
-crane

@slant on twitter

22-Jan-2021 17:16:50 - Last edited on 22-Jan-2021 17:18:12 by crane

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