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Magic of Egg
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Magic of Egg

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"Integrity changes"? What happened to the players deciding what they wanted in the game or not. Just simply suggesting that Jagex would make substantial updates simultaneously to so many items is atrocious. This is not the OSRS that I came back to play after quitting RS2 because of the EOC. If they really think these changes are necessary then why not poll every proposed nerf or buff individually and allow the players to truly decide what needs to be changed?

22-Jan-2021 15:31:37

Ti Luc
Feb Member 2024

Ti Luc

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that is bs rebalancing the game after so long and what it s gonna be after that. game integrity really don t mean anything anymore and what a shit show your last stream was, we ve been told we are hypocryt by u/JagexAyiza and I don t take it, YOU are hypocryt for asking if it should get poll but don t actually give a fk about the feed back (when you came back I was happy to think that you were gonna really help player by looking at the feedback but apparently it s is just a big PR move to damage controle what was comming)

22-Jan-2021 15:39:28

Baby Mole
Jan Member 2020

Baby Mole

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These changes are completely unnecessary and far too big of changes. And I’ve never seen whatever survey you claiming to pull data from.

You can nerf the BP but that much of a stat reduction on the BP and the darts is insane especially for how long it has been the meta ranged weapon.
Are you really going to nerf dhide because some crybaby in Xericians splashes on it?
Changing Ghrazi Rapier, Blade of Saeldor, and Inquisitors Mace to 80 attack when they’ve been a 75 attack requirement since their existence is an insanely backwards decision that will ruin specific account builds. The attack level changes on the Lance and the Scythe are also unnecessary these were never even problem weapons and it seems like you guys are just trying to make going over 75 attack more desirable for no reason.

My biggest gripe is the proposed changes to the Neitiznot Faceguard, another non-problem item that is locked behind a master tier quest and a rare drop. What is the point of using this after the proposed nerf when serpentine helm will now offer the same strength bonus and better defensives. Increase the slayer level requirement on basilisk knights if you must. This and the TBow change make the least sense to me.

The best part of OSRS is that a majority of the community must agree on a change before it is introduced into the game. This seems like a huge cop out and you guys know that these changes won’t pass the polls. I’m all for change, new content, and reworking old content but nerfing already existing items so you can push Raids3 rewards is absurd. If you push these through without a poll you are spineless cowards.

If these changes go through unpolled consider my subscription canceled.

22-Jan-2021 15:42:09

Septarius
May Member 2023

Septarius

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Reducing the overall defense stats of the dragonhide armor sets will lead to people consistently using rune legs and a fighter's torso in place of ranged armor when playing pvp. Instead, reduce their overall stats a little bit, or better yet, ADD NEGATIVE MELEE ACCURACY BONUSES.

The blowpipe is a concern, you failed to mention pvp on that segment. Pvp already suffers a -33% speed debuff for the blowpipe, and to keep it an interesting weapon, I don't think the damage and accuracy changes should apply there. Frankly the 2-tick speed overall is the problem with pvm, although I understand nobody wants to change that now . But if you change the blowpipe, please have these changes not carry over to pvp, as that would drop the weapon's utility below that of the magic shortbow.

Otherwise, please don't drastically change the uses of things. Minor tweaks. A lot of points for bringing obsolete items back to life with some buffs though. There are a lot of items in the game that look great or have story and requirements behind them but have zero practical value.

Would LOVE to see things like regular metal weapons have a little bit more viability. Like the mace for example. Maybe buff it's speed to that of the sword, so you have a fast crush weapon at early levels as well? If this brings it past the scimitar in dps, then add a slight debuff, but you get the point. It seems wasteful of the game's potential that everyone will stick to a scimitar until level 70 attack, and it's all you ever see in F2P.

22-Jan-2021 15:56:37

Dihem

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I just came back after a long break and I do understand the concern there is with power creep and the limited options to make new equipment work though the way this is being handled writing these changes off to be for the integrity off the game is just wrong.

All of these changes should be polled as that is the base foundation that makes OSRS not just a good but great game.

If changes like this do not get polled you will lose the trust you have build up with the community over all these years and you will be no different then any other game while many others devs from other games are 100% jealous of what you have built here. It would be a shame to throw that all away.

You devs should work around the problems you encounter without having your players to suffer for it. That is the first priority you should keep in mind as we are your "customers" and you got all the way to where you are now through working together with us to make the best experience possible.

I honestly can not believe that you guys are all 100% behind this as this goes against everything you stand for as team or as things are going now "stood against".

This is a crucial moment going forward. Will you decide to keep our trust or abuse it in order to make your job easier? That is up to you guys. I hope that you make the right decision to not go forward with brute forcing these changes or you will lose a big part of your community instead of making it grow. Not for the specific changes here but for the way it is being handled.

Kindest regards, Long on and off time player since 2005.

22-Jan-2021 16:24:35

Xg z

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WOW...hope you guys (Jagex) actually are reading all of the feedback. I had no idea about any of these changes being polled on Twitter. That's not the right space for a poll like this. Walking a line with this one...hope you make the right choice...

BP should stay as it is. Why nerf Dihn's..it's already very niche. Tier changes...you're gonna piss off the type accounts E.g. 75 attack pure.

READ ALL OF THE REPLIES! Decision should be clear as day.

22-Jan-2021 16:36:20

SlickRick200
Mar Member 2019

SlickRick200

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Hey Jagex, listen to your community like you've been doing for years. We obviously don't want this so don't force it down our throats. You made this mistake in the past with EoC and removing free trade. Don't make the same mistake again, please. I love this game and don't want to stop playing because the devs didn't listen to the community

22-Jan-2021 16:38:03

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