RuneScape Forum Archive | Equipment Rebalancing

FF7 Rebirth

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So now im gonna go grind bosses, because i only need a few more drops. Then I guess Nerf it, dont need it anymore. then Ill deal like eveyone else for getting the new stuff. HOWEVER, if I wasnt endgame feel sorry for other users. Game Integrity

22-Jan-2021 14:27:54

Oct

2018

Blattermans

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OSRS has always stand out to other games, in the way it uses the player base’s feedback to maintain the game and introduce content. The OSRS community started this game out of nostalgia and helped it to grow to the great game that we all love today. Please keep on listening to the community and keep the game healthy.

I would mainly like to address my concerns around the proposed tier level upgrades, since these changes will mainly affect one group of player: specially build accounts (pures, med lvls, etc). Don’t forget that these player have put a lot of time and effort in building a specific account, that stand out in some way or another. Changing the level requirements of the existing items that they were built around will basically ruin these accounts and waste all the effort it took to create them.

I myself am an owner of a med level build account (75att/def), with which I participate in high level pvm activities. I love the challenge of trying to complete as many achievements as possible, while sticking to these specific stats. The proposed update will permanently disable this account from using high-end melee weapons, such as the Ghrazi rapier and Scythe of Vitor, making it hard or even impossible for me to compete in some of these activities anymore. And it is not just me, there is a whole community (both pvm and pvp) of special accounts out there.

If these changes get implemented into the game, it will be a massive motivation loss for everyone owning a special account build. Do you really want to (potentially) lose such a large portion of the players base? Is the slight tier upgrade worth the gamble?

22-Jan-2021 14:29:40

Oct

2018

Blattermans

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While reading the blog, I understand there is a desire to higher tier weaponry instead of it all being capped at 75 attack/magic/ranged. We have already seen this being implemented with newer updates like the ferocious gloves. I think this is a good thing, and should be continued in future updates. But I don’t think that existing content should be altered in such a way, that a large portion of the player base cannot access it anymore.

The blog states that re-assessing the item tiers should help to ‘better reflect the power of the item’. If the goal here is purely to distinguish the item’s power, why not keep the 75 attack requirement and add an additional strength level requirement of varying tiers (like proposed to for instance the new Warhammer classification). This way, one can still distinguish the item’s tier by their strength level, while having much less impact on special account builds (since they are mainly limited in attack/defense).

Also I fully agree with the concerns around ‘nerfing’ items that have existed in the game for many years, like the blowpipe and d’hide. However since there has already been said a lot about it, I will not go further in on it.

I think OSRS already has done a great job if it comes to adding more diversity to training methods and weapons. Think of dragonbane weaponry, the twisted bow, variety in weaknesses of bosses, special mechanics requiring special items (like spectral for cerb, zamorakian spear for corp, etc) and armour with specific uses like inquisitor’s. Continue on that track, but don’t nerf old content because you want to introduce new items into the game!

Please be careful, listen to the community and keep OSRS the great game that it is.

22-Jan-2021 14:29:55

EtherealKing

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as far as point #5 goes. the blowpipe is not a 3m weapon. it has only become one because jagex allows zulrah to be botted

22-Jan-2021 14:33:55

Hoppy390

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Why is no one talking about buffing salamanders....?!?!? They always get ~~laughed~~ i mean left out O_o

But seriously... why title it rebalancing instead of what it really is which is the nerfing of low to mid level gear.

Even increasing level requirements for blowpipe would've been more sensible than destroying it and as for d hide it has been in game since i can remember

PS. Buff ash too... should at least give some kind of prayer xp. Maybe buff cabbages and nerf the old wise man... he is too powerful

22-Jan-2021 15:00:47

Jul

2022

Aby5salWolf

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Yes, I was just wondering what about actually using the combat triangle properly. At what point should it be ok to go full tank armour and still hit high with mage? At what point should someone using ranged hit 60+ on a guy wearing full melee gear? At what point should any of this type of stuff occur in the combat triangle? Hello,
I was curious if any of you out there have had issues getting your RS client to keep running in Windows 10. There are times when I get it up for 10-15 minutes and then other times it will keep disconnecting me from the server. If you can help, please get in touch.

22-Jan-2021 15:02:42

Ctth2

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EtherealKing said :
as far as point #5 goes. the blowpipe is not a 3m weapon. it has only become one because jagex allows zulrah to be botted

This! How are they gonna claim it is a 3m weapon just because goldfarmers and bots have gone unchecked there?

22-Jan-2021 15:11:08

Ctth2

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"Rebalancing the combat triangle" is the exact rhetoric that led us to EOC and the overabundance of updates that we get in RS3. Don't pander to post-endgame people, thats not the majority of players. If you want your community to grow, as it has over the many years we have had BP and Black Dhide, you need to keep early and midgame in mind. I can't get new players to stick through the midgame, so don't only listen to the endgame people who claim the game is "too easy."

Also, Twitter is not the place for polls or surveys. This is too drastic a change to go unpolled. Don't be disingenuous in your newsposts claiming " blimey!" 10k is a lot of responses, or that it means "we" said yes. You know that is a small response number and that it doesn't mean " we" said yes.

Finally, please make an announcement ingame now for newsposts. So many people missed the survey and even this newspost till they heard from others. If this is to be community-led, y'all need to step up your game.

22-Jan-2021 15:20:43

Aug

2011

Sunda0wner1

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Yes nerf the black dhide top.
If you nerf the chaps and vambs then allow pures to wear god d'hide!!!!!!!

Buff the crystal bow itself and not the armor. I understand that you also want to promote using the armor, but that will still be the case. The blow clearly needs that buff!

Yes the dragon warhammer should have be for 60str and not for 60att!

Leave the rest, especially the blowpipe!

btw only change the dhide for pvp??

22-Jan-2021 15:26:16

capn j a z z

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While I recognize the fear of powercreep with new equipment released, we should be polled about new equipment in the first place. Did we say we need new equipment already? So why nerf something in advance of something we aren't even sure about? Or are we done with polls?

I play this game to feel nostalgic, not for constant new updates or a player-owned farm like in RS3. I play this game because you let the community decide big changes like this. If this were a true integrity change, it would have been presented differently.

It was weird that you start the post (which I only fond thanks to hearsay, since you didn't announce it ingame) saying that you used a survey and thats how you determined the community says yes. And then later you say this isnt about whether we want it. That is a weird juxtaposition. Powercreep is a real thing, but black dhide, bulwark, and faceguard are not the issue. The community is not just maxed out TOB-ers, and that is a long-term dream to most of us--not everyone is a streamer who plays this for their job. Oldschool means oldschool. There's a reason yall returned to 07scape years down the line. Let's not go down this route again.

22-Jan-2021 15:29:22

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