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The Pet Cat

The Pet Cat

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Normal Dragon hide nerf is long over due. Perhaps slightly less of a nerf for God D'hide though? it's far more $$ and rarer than standard D'hide equipment. I disagree with the BP nerf in the strongest possible terms! BP is the only viable down grade from DHCB/ Tbow in many fights. Nerfing the BP into a non usable item relegates most of us to a rune crossbow until we are able to obtain the weapons that you ..... arn't looking to nerf into the ground >.<. especially for iron accs! I understand the need to tweak some stats, however the proposed changes to the BP would be game breaking for many of us without access to the raids range weapons. very disappointed. ~ A very disheartened player

22-Jan-2021 13:00:14

The Pet Cat

The Pet Cat

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Normal Dragon hide nerf is long over due. Perhaps slightly less of a nerf for God D'hide though? it's far more $$ and rarer than standard D'hide equipment. I disagree with the BP nerf in the strongest possible terms! BP is the only viable down grade from DHCB/ Tbow in many fights. Nerfing the BP into a non usable item relegates most of us to a rune crossbow until we are able to obtain the weapons that you ..... arn't looking to nerf into the ground >.<. especially for iron accs! I understand the need to tweak some stats, however the proposed changes to the BP would be game breaking for many of us without access to the raids range weapons. very disappointed. ~ A very disheartened player

22-Jan-2021 13:00:17

Ippe
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Ippe

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I think the blowpipe has always been a little bit too powerful considering it's affordable value.
I propose changing the effectiveness of darts rather than changing overall blowpipe's stats. Especially if the current blowpipe with bronze darts is more powerful than post-nerf with dragon darts.

Not sure if Neitiznot Faceguard necessarily needs nerf. It it locked behind a quest, a rare drop rate and hefty sum of gp, when Serpentine helm is almost as good but doesn't really have any other requirements except it's 75 Defence and affordable price. Personally I think it's good as it is :)

Otherwise, great stuff :)
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22-Jan-2021 13:07:01

L E L 0

L E L 0

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I would really consider thinking very hard about the blow pipe change .. maybe even adding a higher level to wield it? I don’t know but I think the nerf for the blow pipe is a bit to much, maybe keep the accuracy option that is fine, but the ranged strength being lowered is pushing it.

I agree with the d hide as they r very over powered for their value, this open up arma and Karil to be top which makes more sense.

Rest I agree with, mostly blow pipe is the issue

Thanks

22-Jan-2021 13:15:00

Percevalll
Dec Member 2023

Percevalll

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I've only been back for 3 months after a long break (like at least 1.5 years), but that does it for me. I'm quitting for at least a couple more years. Why in god's name is Jagex taking a mistake that they made themselves, designing content around gear that was broken for years, and making us, the players, pay for it? I'm not going to mince words and say this is probably the worst update since EoC. Wanting to add new content doesn't justify nerfing old content, it just makes players feel terrible about their accomplishments. You'll poll the most minute of details, but come up with the most BS of reasons why you can't poll this? The arrogance in this decision is obscene.

There are things legitimately ruining the integrity of the game, such as botting, scamming, and the Duel Arena, but you choose to focus on actively ruining the mid-level PvMing experience instead. I don't want to seem conspiratorial, but you are adding credence to the claim that your decisions are strictly dictated by profit. I have nothing to say other than that I'm disappointed with this decision. I thought you learned from your turbulent 07-13 years, but it doesn't seem like that's the case.

22-Jan-2021 13:28:37

Jmacklam

Jmacklam

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I really disagree with the blowpipe nerf tbh, i think it would be better to make the requirement for it higher like u have the staff?? or even do as you did for the g maul and make an add on that would make the blowpipe how it already is. make the item untradeable so u cannot just buy it off the GE. for example ( more like an idea) add an item to KQ since tbh i think its drop table need a bit off a buff like a KQ limb where you can use a chisel on it to make a weapon stabilizer at 53 crafting, and when attached to the blowpipe brings it back to how it is? so like a blowpipe (s) and make the items untradeable.

and also i really think this should be polled, as i think a lot of people may leave the game with some of the changes u are planning on making.

22-Jan-2021 13:28:52

EtherealKing

EtherealKing

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alright so id like to start off by addressing how this supposed need for change has come about. i very much agree with the people who are saying this feels like what happened back in the day with eoc, this is an extensive change to the core of the game which the players have no say in. Yes you say that you recieved over 50% feedback on a survey that changes needed to be made, well where was this survey because from what im seeing the majority of the player base is unaware of such a survey and have never laid eyes on it? you call this an integrity change and a rebalance but all this is is catering to the cries of a few who want to catch a freeze in their xercian robes and water staff on full d hide and a dhins bulwark. also i cant help but feel the sudden supposed cries for a rebalance of the games combat and lack of "spells,curses,prayers and skills" happen to be coming at a time when rs3s player base is at its lowest and many that dwindeled on rs3 have migrated to oldschool finally because of the larger player base (and previous updates bringing more exciting content than updates to rs3) and now that small base of players is pitching a fit that oldschool is oldschool.

While i agree that some of the changes to previously useless items are nice the gutting of the blowpipe is unacceptable, everyone says its a cheap weapon and it is in the current day because of the design of zulrah, essentially because the developers are trash at playing the game when they design content they think its super hard when in reality theve just created a boss that a computer program can kill 120x an hour. so if youd like to see the blowpipe back where it belongs as far as price and the price of upkeep you need to do what you should have done in the first place with the zulrah boss and re-design its fight. you could increase the size of the island on which the battle takes place and add more possible rotations that are not as predictable and would provide needed chaos and challenge to

22-Jan-2021 13:42:19

EtherealKing

EtherealKing

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continued-
the fight. the problem isnt that the gear is to strong its that you made it to easy to obtain the item from the boss and all of its needed upkeep. but you certainly cant target a few specific niche items in game for a stat rework to try and satisfy an underwhelming minority of players, with the new mods youre about to repeat old mistakes. youre trying too hard to make runescape into a different game again. please dont i dont want to quit again i have a main that i run lots of tob/cox/nightmare an stuff on and i have an ironman that i absolutly adore that brought the soul of the game back for me. dont kill the only game we have left from our childhood jagex please just please

22-Jan-2021 13:47:31

EtherealKing

EtherealKing

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Percevalll said :
I've only been back for 3 months after a long break (like at least 1.5 years), but that does it for me. I'm quitting for at least a couple more years. Why in god's name is Jagex taking a mistake that they made themselves, designing content around gear that was broken for years, and making us, the players, pay for it? I'm not going to mince words and say this is probably the worst update since EoC. Wanting to add new content doesn't justify nerfing old content, it just makes players feel terrible about their accomplishments. You'll poll the most minute of details, but come up with the most BS of reasons why you can't poll this? The arrogance in this decision is obscene.

There are things legitimately ruining the integrity of the game, such as botting, scamming, and the Duel Arena, but you choose to focus on actively ruining the mid-level PvMing experience instead. I don't want to seem conspiratorial, but you are adding credence to the claim that your decisions are strictly dictated by profit. I have nothing to say other than that I'm disappointed with this decision. I thought you learned from your turbulent 07-13 years, but it doesn't seem like that's the case.
and honestly this person nails what your focus should be to protect the integrity of the game do something about the bots, do something about the scams, the gold selling. dont punish the pvm community with the excuse that you want to make new content.

22-Jan-2021 13:51:44

Prayerwarior

Prayerwarior

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Everyone is all tore up over all this...I don’t have answers for everything but I have a few points I’d like to make

#1 Good job Jagex on creating a game that people are this passionate about
#2 I think the rebalancing changes have the right idea in mind but need to be executed a little differently to achieve their goals
#3 let’s point out how karils is almost useless as a complete barrows set
#4 go ahead and lower dragon hide defense but the defense of crystal armor should not be the same given its deterioration aspect and the need for 70 defense over 40
#5 yes nerfing the blowpipe sucks but a 3m weapon shouldn’t be that powerful

22-Jan-2021 14:01:12

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