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Slashies
Mar Member 2024

Slashies

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Alright, someone needs to banish these dumbass "rs"3 mods that are working on osrs. Send em back, this game aint anything like their dumbass game they continued ruining for years.


The blowpipe nerf is completely necessary and shouldve swiftly happened 6 years ago, don't listen to all the noobies who don't want it changed. The hasta/mace/spear and bulwark changes are also fine, the bulwark is also an insanely overpowered piece of gear on the level of blowpipe but for defence. Melee has been drastically weaker than range since the stupid blowpipe came out, something that should just about never be occurring.


With that said, everything else is completely and thoroughly unnecessary, and most importantly, completely destroys the "old-school feel of the game." It also further proves that some "rs"3 idiot mods are trying to push their terrible agendas on this game. OSRS never did and never should have "tiers". Oh some new idiot 10 year old playing the game thinks that since basilisk knights that he can now kill after doing a grandmaster high requirement quest should be easier because theyre LEVEL 60 SLAYER?! These arguments are straight up brain-dead "tier", and assume that your playerbase is a bunch of drooling straw chewers. EVERY time in gaming history ever in any game that companies make updates to try to baby-ify their playerbase, they are UNIVERSALLY reviled. STOP trying to ruin this game and turn it into shitscap3. A lot of people have brains! Stop catering to tiny miniscule minorities that will struggle then bitch and moan about it no matter where they go or what they do!

I sure hope this is some dumbass decree by shareholders or daddy evil China saying "yours is the more profitable one, make the new player experience easier and focus more on retaining the braindeads so you can try to get more whales muahaha!" even though they're already making a ridiculous slaying, because there is never enough for all these greedy worthless dregs.
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22-Jan-2021 10:17:36

Hoppy390

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Rebalancing is one thing but absolutely trashing items is another. Taking the blowpipe for instance... reducing attack bonus by 50% and ranged strength by 37.5% is a tremendous nerf.

if you must nerf it a 10-15% nerf for either strength or attack bonus or even both would be somewhat more palatable. I feel if you go so crazy on one item you haven't rebalanced but instead just destroyed the use of this one item. The consumables e.g. zulrah scales make it deserve some strength/accuracy

One example is: In games of soul wars there are loads of players that run around in max gear with overpowered weapons and armour. If you nerf the cheaper/more accessible weapons you ruin the game for the casual player and makes OSRS a game for those that reach endgame content only. In your suggested rebalancing post you have literally left all the overpowered weapons untouched and increased the level requirements which literally does nothing as most players using these weapons have 99s in all the requirement stats. At the same time you have destroyed other items E.g. the blowpipe and to an extent the Bulwark

In short destroying certain cheaper items with high consumable cost is not the way to do things. Moreso you should be polling such ideas before even contemplating (i.e. poll questions like: Would you support rebalancing weapons? What level of nerfing is acceptable e.g. 5%, 10%, 15% etc for items)

While you are at it you might as well buff the salamanders so that they can hit on other players in soul wars ;)

22-Jan-2021 10:41:45

Dog Gem

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This is what happens when you create an overly powerful weapon/item in the first place. The blowpipe should never have been as strong in the first place - it was obvious that accounts were going to be designed around this god-tier weapon as soon as you introduced it (even after the first nerf). To decrease it further now is only going to annoy many of your loyal playerbase. D'Hide is another one that doesn't need to change. For all it's worth, it's far too late to change those items.

However I have no problem with the level requirements increased, and I am all for the other weapon types actually being useful. Faceguard with 5 str instead isn't a bad change at all given the serpentine use scales. Bulwark doesn't need changing. I like the rebalancing of the rune armour too as it would give all those items more usage other than alching.

This is a HUGE update and needs all the attention and care in the world, as well has listening to you playerbase. Not everyone uses rubbish like Twitter, so placing a survey on their and using the results to determine what should be good or not is objectively wrong. I am ASTOUNDED that the Inferno hasn't even been mentioned with the Blowpipe changes in your report. To lock the Inferno behind a 1B+ weapon is silly (unless you happen to be a god at the game and can do it with ACB).

So overall other than the Blowpipe and D'Hide, I would welcome the other changes.

22-Jan-2021 11:02:30

Valaryan
May Member 2022

Valaryan

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Just came here to do my duty and implore and beg Jagex to really reconsider the blowpipe nerf. 50% accuracy nerf AS WELL as darts nerf is simply too much. And considering how the bp special effect is usually useless, a 25% nerf would have been more than setisfactory.
I really don't understand what is to be gained from this in terms of "game health" and "intergrity". If your making room for a new awesome ranged weapon, release it first and then ruin the current one.
I'm not saying don't nerf it. Nerf it, but don't ruin it like that.

22-Jan-2021 11:56:25

Nick0li
Mar Member 2024

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My major concerns other than the blowpipe over nerf is the massive impact the changes to item level requirements will have on numerous pking accounts. Primarily the effect the new DWH will have on pure pking as now instead of a fairly difficult 4 way switch, all obby maulers an incredibly powerful build already have access to a much more accurate and powerful special attack weapon at a very low combat level. As you are able to spec a 36 at 23 combat with dwh, if this proposed change goes through I truly believe such a buff will invalidate numerous "baby" pure builds and should at least be locked behind having both 60 atk and 60 str.
The other tier changes massively negatively impact med level 75 atk zerkers who wish to dabble in pvm, loss in being able to use the scythe as well as rapier in my opinion is not a change you should make without carefull considerition placed into the 1000's of hours placed into the creation of these incredibly popular pking accounts. As the change would force many players to either choose weather to stay strictly as a pking account to keep 75 atk or be almost required to make their account into a main as in the future one can imagine ever increasing requirements that new item that come into the game would possess. While gaining a single combat level from 75-80 attack is not the end of the world, the levels gained can never be lost and in my opinion sets a bad precedent for the future.

22-Jan-2021 11:58:31

Glurcraig
Oct Member 2023

Glurcraig

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I do not agree with the rebalance, it’s not quite fair for iron men to farm up the blowpipe for what it is then for you to turn around and change that, for instance if I were to buy a dog and you sneak into my house and swapped it with a cat that would be pretty messed up.

22-Jan-2021 11:58:53

Glurcraig
Oct Member 2023

Glurcraig

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I do not agree with the rebalance, it’s not quite fair for iron men to farm up the blowpipe for what it is then for you to turn around and change that, for instance if I were to buy a dog and you sneak into my house and swapped it with a cat that would be pretty messed up.

22-Jan-2021 11:58:54

flyinghighnl
Jul Member 2017

flyinghighnl

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nerf the blowpipe this hard, is screwing up the game compleet. i know i stop playing osrs for sure when these nerfs go through, like it is sugested now. it is not worth paying for a game, who cant even run a update right the first way, and now they are olso screwing gear this hard. take more effort in it when introducing new gear, not nerf it late late late game. if you can even call it a nerf, it is just fucking the blowpipe in the ass without spitting on it, and than leave it till it bleed to dead. screwing zulrah boss for sure. a little nerf when needed is oke. but this........

22-Jan-2021 12:31:21

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