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ShrimpsChips
Jul Member 2022

ShrimpsChips

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If the Blowpipe nerf makes it into the game, you can be sure I'll quit playing and I'm sure many more players would rightfully so as well.

It took me more than 15000 kills to get a Dragon Warhammer - even just imagining doing that with the suggested blowpipe nerfs, I want to kill myself. It would totally invalidate numerous bossing strategies for ironmen. It's true what they said in the blog post, the blowpipe is better than the crystal bow by leaps and bounds...but that's how it SHOULD be. If you want to make the equipment worth it, make the requirements higher to equip it, and that's as if requiring scales AND darts isn't already a big enough requirement on top of grinding potentially thousands of Zulrah kills.

Whoever on the Jagex team suggested a blowpipe nerf should be immediately fired, at risk of losing half or more of your current player base.

21-Jan-2021 22:44:57 - Last edited on 21-Jan-2021 22:46:04 by ShrimpsChips

I Only Bail
Nov Member 2023

I Only Bail

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Now I took that survey and I agreed with most of the people saying power creep isn't a problem currently in OSRS but I also said it would be a problem in the future. I agree with most of the changes except for 3 items.

1. The blog said it would be nerfing all d'hide so you are just making range armor very terrible all around and weakening the skill essentially for low to mid levels and Ironmen who get their gear pretty late into the game. The people who complain about it are people who pvp and try to MAGE the RANGER and if we bring up the weapon triangle that kept getting mentioned in the blogpost that is not a good plan so it seems fine where it is since its melee stats are fine but nowhere near great.

2. Blowpipe is being cut in half for its range stats just about and that is terrible enough but you are also nerfing the ammo along with it. I get trying to put the blowpipe in a niche use like a lot of other content but that would just make it dead content for the majority of the community. If you were going to touch it I say lower its accuracy slightly but I'd rather you just raise the level you can use it then anything else.

3. Scimitars would still be the weapon everyone would use to train their early melee skills. These buffs are not substantial enough to change that which seems to be the end goal or at least give a variety depending on the situation. It just does not add enough variety to fix that I would imitate the high end gear between Blade of Saeldor, Ghrazi Rapier, and Inquisitor's Mace as they all fill in a role for crush, stab, and slash and are the same stats more or less but switched around for the value. Does fishing trawler have a trip counter yet?

21-Jan-2021 22:46:47

Pontifex Rex
Sep Member 2021

Pontifex Rex

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I can foresee weapons and equipment rapidly becoming an existential threat. It would be easier to sway the community if it is made clear that these changes will be 'rapidly' followed up and as 'revisited' as Soul Wars has been recently. The reception will be significantly more positive if you show them potential new weapons and equipment as well in any future blog on the topic (fill the holes!!!). I don't think some of the players realize how out of 'room' you are in relations to stats without radically altering monster stats (compounded by semi broken weapons/equipment curve). It is the only way to stop the 'range for everything' mantra and make the magic changes more relevant as an actual option as all three combat styles should matter at all times. Bringing PVM to parity with PVP and PVP to parity with PVM would fix many 'perception' issues with the game. Reducing the 'death canyon' between the two would help as well. OFFER EQUIPMENT INSURANCE (WITH REASONABLE LIMITATIONS) TO GOLD SINK a parity fix. Do not be afraid to Zelda BOTW these Final Fantasy fixes; more may be better. Do not be afraid to Final Fantasy these Zelda BOTW fixes; magic could matter. It is TOOOOOOOO common to se NO KC weapons (especially godswords) running around; IT IS STRANGLING THE GAME TO DEATH! Do not NO-TRADE-SLAP these items, but consider KC based restrictions (it is only fair in the face of PVP-robbery scenarios). Do it and be not afraid. OSRS forever!!!

21-Jan-2021 22:58:25

UIMTrevorski

UIMTrevorski

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Jagex,

I respect this decision and understand why we need to get items into the 80's. It's been long overdue.

Where I disagree is the Dragonhide Armour changes. The defense bonus SO important to many aspects of the game for budget gear setups. I only play Ultimate Ironman, and that piece of gear is only way to tri-brid all the time. Stacking that nurf on top of the blowpipe nurf is too much.

I beg you to not change dragon-hide Armour. If you only poll ONE part of it, do that one. Everything else is fine to me.

At the very least, let the God D'hide have a higher defense bonus than standard black d'hide, even if it's less than it is now; just make it more than freeking half -_-.

I am disappointed
-UIMTrevorski

21-Jan-2021 22:59:49

Oberfaust
Oct Member 2023

Oberfaust

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- I can understand tier changes.

- The faceguard loses 1 strength bonus, so what?

- Tbow loses prayer bonus, as if I even knew it had a prayer bonus.

-D'hide is pretty strong for it's price but if the black d'hide proposed stats are that bad wearing other lesser d'hide would be just awful. I can't really think of a time I'd wear d'hide anyway as I don't PK, or would just use void or karils.

- Biggest use of Dinh's is training prayer at chaos altar, where you're likely using it in conjunction with justiciar anyways, so you'd already have no magic defense.

- I think most people agree BP was OP

- As for buffing the bad, It looks like only things you would use in f2p are affected heavily.

-Overall, the update is not as bad as people are making it out to be. The state of the game is kind of how it was 8 years into it back in the day, where things are becoming stagnant. An update like this was needed sooner or later.

21-Jan-2021 23:16:03

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