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oh come on please do not change weapon stat requirements after people like me have based their whole accounts on those levels, ill have to ruin my med level and it will be like 113 combat if i have to get 85 attack, this is so dumb, and i play 12 hours a day why didnt i get to take this survey or why wasnt it polled, why dont you guys put some of your time into making raids 3, not talking about it after you ruin half of runescape

21-Jan-2021 17:45:16

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oh come on please do not change weapon stat requirements after people like me have based their whole accounts on those levels, ill have to ruin my med level and it will be like 113 combat if i have to get 85 attack, this is so dumb, and i play 12 hours a day why didnt i get to take this survey or why wasnt it polled, why dont you guys put some of your time into making raids 3, not talking about it after you ruin half of runescape

21-Jan-2021 17:45:18

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oh come on please do not change weapon stat requirements after people like me have based their whole accounts on those levels, ill have to ruin my med level and it will be like 113 combat if i have to get 85 attack, this is so dumb, and i play 12 hours a day why didnt i get to take this survey or why wasnt it polled, why dont you guys put some of your time into making raids 3, not talking about it after you ruin half of runescape

21-Jan-2021 17:45:20

Deerkl

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You need to poll this stuff, lower the amount of votes required to 49% for integrity changes but this is really stupid. The items getting buffs I am glad for but there are other items out there that probably could of used them more. Dihns is getting nerfed again against magic, why? You use it for tanking you cannot attack with it equipped, you guys are making it useless. the face guard is getting an unneeded nerf too, just raise the slayer requirement or make another requirement to equip it . The blow pipe is getting vastly overnerfed a straight 50% before moving onto the ammo nerfs. I agree that it needs a nerf but this is way too much. The cherry on the top is you're also nerfing range armor to go along with it granted that you're basically nerfing it for pvp but the blessed dragon hide does not need to be induced in it, make it require a higher levels and keep the stats as is. I'm with the majority of players you polled in regards to worrying about the health of the game. You soon wont have a game if you keep putting out updates like these up unpolled.

21-Jan-2021 17:48:33

Eiac

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Dont mess with anything.
Attempting to rebalance items that were not specifically called for a rebalance is how you made EOC which nearly entirely destroyed Jagex.

Individual, polled changes PER ITEM are acceptable but this sweep[ing overhaul will change so many metas and absolutely ruin the prices of many items people have worked hard to obtain.

Right now, I feel like I should sell my blowpipe before it gets nerfed, leaving me without a blowpipe for an undetermined length of time. Being in this situation, as a concept, is absolutely terrible design and I emplore you to reconsider the way you both apply and announce such changes. The market fluctuation on these items since the newspost is absolutely crazy.

Adding a higher level requirement is one thing, but entirely changing the mechanics of how an item works is another.

Need I remind you that over half of players surveyed believed the changes should be polled

21-Jan-2021 17:50:04

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I know jmods don't play their own game and I should take that into account when considering their shortsighted changes, but this one is over the top bad, even for them. The BP nerf is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen, for many reasons involving the entire game being balanced around it. The worst of all though is that inferno will now be nearly impossible for anyone that isn't some PVM prodigy that can flick for 4 hours and tank 6 zuk sets. The inferno is bloated time-wise as it is and after this update it's going to be unbearably long . Every monster in the inferno is killed with a blowpipe and the waves still take 2 hours minimum because of how bloated feral Tzhaar hp and defense is. With an accuracy and DPS nerf it will be even more mind numbing to get through the waves. Worst part of it though is that zuk will take forever, healers will take substantially longer to kill and they are already a hellish brew check. Additionally post nerf the ranger and mager sets will HAVE to be flicked, you can't even reliably burst down the ranger with the BP anymore after the changes. I shouldn't even need to go into how hard flicking sets is on zuk. I'll be fine with all of these changes if I see a single jmod beat inferno without a blowpipe. Hell I'll be fine with the changes if a single jmod involved in this update beat the inferno front to back. Of course it will never happen because like I said, jagex doesn't play their own game and don't care about anything besides squeezing nickels out of their playerbase.

21-Jan-2021 17:50:57

XxArmandxX

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To continue from above, from the "major" critique, now a few minor ones, as proposed.

The d'hide update: Yes, d'hides as they stand for the price, are insane for a lot of content. I personally don't mind using them in a lot of mid and early late game content. But the proposal you put forward leaves a gap, in which you say "All" d'hide needs this specific nerf, where I disagree partially. You actually have two separate tiers of d'hide potentially. Regular vs Blessed.

Blessed is not nearly as easy to attain. (not that it is overly difficult, but you cant just craft it). You could make this a separate tier of D'hide, that you do not nerf nearly as drastic, if at all. Instead, you could say you need a slightly higher defense to wear it, or however you wish to enact the use. This would first make Blessed D'hide armor worth something again, other than collecting in poh chests as trophies.

Next up is the faceguard. The neitz helm has always been a decent helm, especially for wildy work, with decent stats, and a lower price tag given the shop you can purchase from if you don't want the instant gratification from the ge. The faceguard itself is actually a decently balanced item, though a higher level could easily work. If any melee gear needs to be nerfed, it might be the inquisitors (but I actually like that it is stronger given what you need go through to attain it) though I haven't looked at numbers to see a logical suggestion here as to what you could nerf it to reasonably if a change were to be made.

There are other nit-picky things, but honestly, yall are doing what you can, while trying to figure it all out.

Be Well,

Armand

21-Jan-2021 17:53:00

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