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Dan GIM
Jan Member 2018

Dan GIM

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Level requirements i agree with but nerfing the end game items as an ironman myself i would be absolutely devastated as im 800 tobs deep no weapon. I grind tob because i want these end game weapons and i believe they should be strong and powerful. Raise the requirements leave the stats of the items. Why would ironmen want to improve after a tent whip since alll other powerful items will be same dps as a whip. Makes no sense. Ironmen rely On a blowpipe nerfing it would heavily impact irons. Imagine a terrible dps chambers for 17363720 kc to get a tbow thats nerfed. Will kill end game content

21-Jan-2021 18:46:01

Freds Breads
Mar Member 2023

Freds Breads

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Hello,
I understand that the bp is hella powerful for its price point and its cost of usage and a nerf is necessary, however I would feel that it would be more appropriate at this point to just increase the cost of using the blowpipe (ie increase the amount of scales used).
I also understand that this makes raids 3 drop balancing more difficult, maybe it would be easier on the community to hold off on the blowpipe nerf until raids 3 comes out?
I also feel like this will be appreciated a lot by the speed-running community as they use the blowpipe fairly heavily.

All the other nerfs and buffs sound good tho, except for the tbow and the magic def nerf on the d'hide. I feel like it should keep a +2 prayer bonus like the inquisitors mace and that the melee defense nerf is enough for the black d'hide.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, I wish all the mods and devs the best, and I would very much like to see a test world for people to test out these changes in person befor they are pushed to the actual game.

21-Jan-2021 18:47:16

Cicero Xere

Cicero Xere

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The only changes that should be done are fixing Crystal Armor/Bow, D'Hide, ticks for maces, and maybe some level changes. Anything that is being used in the end game should stay that way. Please DO NOT destroy the state of the game and the economy especially in 1 fell swoop.

EOC should have taught you something, don't do this.
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21-Jan-2021 18:50:24

skilla boy
Aug Member 2020

skilla boy

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1) I like the changes to less useful things such as maces, war hammers and chain bodies.
However, there are several other weapon types which never get used because they're just not good enough such as daggers below dragon.
This can also stretch to equipment with special attacks or set effects such as Karil's which lowers agility... Because that is useful, you could instead have a 25% chance that the victim gets frozen for 5 seconds, or something else that might actually come in handy and make the set useful.

2) I like raising the level requirements of the top tier equipment, when all other tiers are 10 levels apart, from barrows to top tier only being 5 levels is odd.

3) I like the nerfing of dhide, that has broken the combat triangle for too long. Nerfing the Dinh's could go either way, it either makes it more playable or just means it is unviable as an option anymore.

4) I think the nerfing of the blowpipe has come from the wrong direction, I think the weapon itself should stay as it is, make the adjustments to the ammunition and double the zulrah scales consumed.
By lowering the stats of the darts you are making it a weaker weapon and by doubling the scale cost you are making it unsuitable for some scenarios and doing so without taking away a really good cheaper range weapon for mid level players who can't afford some of the other options. As I've seen in other comments, mid levels who raid or Ironmen really need this weapon or they will struggle.
Making it level 80 requirement could also help.
Don't forget that this can also be looked at again, if for example in 6 months just before the release of a new raid, it is still considered too powerful then make further alterations. It will be easier to come back and say it is still too powerful than to come back after nerfing it too hard and boost it again.
Don't do as with the Rev caves and implement several changes which each individually could have worked but together just killed the content.

21-Jan-2021 18:55:14

Monark I
May Member 2023

Monark I

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I like most of the changes, except for 2.

The Blowpipe nerf seems a little bit too heavy for me. In my opinion, if it went down to 45 Ranged Attack and 30 Strength bonus that would already help a lot, but that’s not the change I most want to adress.

Black D’hide nerf was quite needed, but it still begs the question: What do we use now? That’s why I propose the idea of keeping the nerf on Black D’hide (for that price it seems fair) and keeping Blessed D’hide where it is. Blessed D’hide is rarer and therefore more expensive, so that’s why I think it would be fair to have it retain it’s stats. Since it’s more expensive you risk more in the Wilderness so it would keep it’s value there. It’s worth considering.
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21-Jan-2021 18:56:23

mazdarati
Oct Member 2023

mazdarati

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After page 14 I stopped reading, for now, but I get the general feeling.

Jagex thinks changes are apparently needed for Raids 3 and future updates. I think compromising the game integrity is not so wise. I agree with people referring to EOC. The only reason why I continued RS3 for a while is because I had my stats and I didn't know OSRS would be actively maintained. Core RS items like rune armour and d'hide should not be touched if only for the nostalgic value.

Then I wonder, is Raids 3 the real reason or is the reason like in many companies these days. A manager thinks he can only make a carrier and get a bonus if he makes a 'successful' change in the company. Is this crazy proposal a result of greedy self-interest?

21-Jan-2021 18:56:42

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