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Laron Beater

Laron Beater

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Right on!

Been here since the beginning and always wondered why maces were still a thing. Great idea giving them potential. I would strongly suggest looking at the raid items as well for balancing. I guess I missed the poll, but glad you are making much needed changes. I think this will breathe new life into the game again.

21-Jan-2021 17:12:14

DankHerbDoin
Aug Member 2022

DankHerbDoin

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You guys ruined “old school” when you came out with evolution of combat. You continually update, upgrade, add, and change more content than most players can keep up with. We come to play old school, and you’ve changed it so much that it’s not even close to old school with all the raids, equipment, rooftops, pets, achievements, quests, and locations. Old school has been long gone. Stop changing stuff, not every game needs reconstruction or new material. Eventually you’re going to need to stop calling it old school. Changing the whole dynamics of the game, you tried that once with eoc. Either create a new version of your new old school or leave it truly old school.

21-Jan-2021 17:14:23

5Lbs
Jun Member 2023

5Lbs

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Seriously please stop it. You're actively working on ruining your own game. You say you're going to poll things, and that the osrs community is going to have a say. But then decide to roll out unpolled updates like this that will have major effects in every aspect of combat in the game.

In a way it would be an update like eoc. And much like "evolution" of combat, I see it as the game devolving, not going forward in a positive way at all. You may not be changing the entire combat system exactly.. But you're changing the items base stats, changing best in slot gear in so many different pvm and pvp scenarios. Maybe not necessarily best in slot for pvp scenarios.. but can anyone honestly argue with me when I say, that nerfing dhides like that is going to completely change the way people have to gear up for pvp and even wildy pvm. The blow pipe as you've said wont be a viable option in so many places. Etc. And id bet Its going to effect ironman the most of all.

If this really happens I believe you're going to make alot of your playerbase really upset. You said you were going to poll major chages, stop trying to put through massive updates that effect nearly everybody in the game unpolled by saying things like "we believe its imperative to the well being of the game" I'm sure the dev team for eoc said the exact same thing.. That's why you promised to poll your content, let the players decide what's right for us.

Honestly as much as I disagree with most of the changes, if they were voted on by the players and not just the oldschool team, and they passed I could accept it, if %75 of the players agree this is necessary then so be it. But this is a massive showing of disrespect toward the osrs player base. Do you remember "we pay we say?" This is a perfect example of what that stood for. Please dont go and ruin your game because you think you know what's good for us. Its happened once already don't let it happen again. Poll your changes

21-Jan-2021 17:16:24

Mawq

Mawq

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Just a thought. Instead of nerfing armour, why not make better armour and harder bosses? Also bring back summoning!! Lvl 136combat could open up more possibilities. Just leave out beasts of burden, if people are really such babies about being about to carry extra items. You’re about to ruin key parts of the game for the average player to cater to your streamers and elitists. I have so many ideas for this game. Reach out. You don’t need to mess with exsisting content, this game is great as is, don’t mess it up. Let’s take a look at some things..
Crystal armour: fail
Devout boots(you stole this idea from me): and failed.. I had a way better idea and you made boots!! I posted it in the forums and my post disappeared and you made boots.. so dumb
Moss giant boss: fail

You want to fix things in game. I have tons of ideas. For low level add ins for a better experience on the way to endgame content. To a new endgame making Tob and chambers mid level content.

Sample: Second class of dwarf cannon and another quest to obtain it: new dwarf cannon can lock on to targets its smaller requiring new ammo, a new ammo mold. Also with the new quest you learn to make cannon balls out of all the metals not just steel. Each or cannon ball will have a range damage bonus. Can even have crystal cannon balls if you still wanna keep that crystal garbage in the game.. gosh.. crystal shits dumb. Teleport crystal.. only good one.. and only for fruit tree runs. But that’s 1 idea.. don’t take it and fuck it up like you did with devout boots. I’ll give you my full ideas free of charge. Just don’t mess up the game anymore..

21-Jan-2021 17:24:27

XxArmandxX

XxArmandxX

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So, I agree whole-heartedly that a rebalance needs to be done. I agree many things are so over powered and under powered as to make the meta stale. I applaud the effort that y'all are putting into trying to come up with a logical solution. I also have one major critic of the rebalance, and a few minor ones.

First the good, The dragonbone necklace being a viable option in some relaxed situations is awesome. Most of the level nerfs are spot on. Like the toxic trident needing to be a higher cap, which is still relatively easy to achieve, with a little more work. And other weapon types being viable is awesome.

Then the bad... the blowpipe. Yes, it is overpowered, and needs a nerf. Honestly, in many occasions, it is on par with raid weapons if not actually better. (Like at Vorkath, the second most powerful dragon in the game behind Ohm, the bp can still out dps the dhcb the majority of the time) So I like where the idea you had comes from. But from a pure statics point, I believe the nerf you proposed is too much. 40% decrease give or take in effectiveness, will render it almost useless. So I am not saying don't nerf it. But I am more on the side of about 15% stat reduction, and even I may be on the high side here, would still leave it usable, but no where near BIS for content people love. You can take a rcb into sara, and you can get kc, but it's not effective comparatively right? I am using the same concept, but with a higher tier piece of gear than the rcb, with a harder unlock for real players who are just getting into bossing, and haven't memorized every rotation. (Also, mixing up the rotations slightly randomly, could do well in giving script writers more issues with many bosses, where real players can more easily adapt, but that is a topic for a different thread).

I like that this isn't rs3, and everything isn't always easy. There are other things, but I am out of room.

Be Well,

Armand

21-Jan-2021 17:28:25

Necromanzay

Necromanzay

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Toxic blowpipe isn't even oldschool, it didn't exist back in the day and it shouldn't now, but since they won't remove it, it needs these nerfs. Everything else seems spot on: the buyable chaotics now need 80 stats, good adjustments to d'hide (except the magic def nerf, you even said it was for magic protection?) and they mentioned chainbodies but suggested no changes for them. Since we're talking about long-term, what's the plan for higher tier prayers? You said there would be no GE, dclaws, soul wars, chaotics (specifically dungeoneering but we can now buy the weapons from them, basically), and there ARE these things now. I want a reason to get prayer up, So consider Curses. I wouldn't even be mad (maybe a little bit) if you made them need to be bought/dropped like the current higher-tier (really mid tier, max at 77?) prays. Honestly, barring abilities being added i'm fine with most changes they make, imho the game was fine right before eoc. Minority opinion i'm SURE, but this is for jagex to read, not the salty trolls.

21-Jan-2021 17:30:13

megacum
May Member 2019

megacum

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Blowpipe nerf kinda makes sense it was pretty OP but the faceguard nerf is dumb, serp helm is not best in slot unless you really want that plus 3 prayer bonus. Buff serp helm to balance out GP at zulrah the nerf for the blowpipe is gonna TANK that GP per hour

21-Jan-2021 17:30:56

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