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Leverter

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@CacoaDragon

If you want some more skewed data:

Assume you go to Bandos for 200kc
Assume you kill General Graador and each minion on every KC

Minions give a hard clue every 1/128
General Graador has an elite 1/250

Treasure seeker leaves with 30 hard and 10 elite
Unnatural selection leaves with 4-5 hard and 0-1 elite

I get what you're saying, but being a wall that just says no isn't useful.
I'm also on treasure seeker and would be perfectly fine with these changes.
If you would do anything else it may be to remove the clue bonus on slayer monsters, but i don't personally believe it's necessary.

11-Nov-2020 20:16:57 - Last edited on 11-Nov-2020 20:17:31 by Leverter

Apr

2019

Cacoadragon

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@IceCapZone

To be honest if the change proposed goes through as currently written I will be disappointed and less motivated to play leagues since in my opinion I will have essentially wasted my tier 4 pick. I am currently happy with my pick because as it currently is in the game it lets me complete clues much easier than if I had not selected Treasure Seeker. I have been storing up my clues to do until the point where I have any of the items that are required stored up that I am willing/able to get. I've done 15 or so beginners and easy clues, 5 or so mediums, and 5 or so hard clues just to get easy task completions but for the real meat of the clue grind I anticipate to be in the last few weeks of the leagues. I fully anticipated having to juggle clues to be able to complete them when I get to the point that I start doing clues and I was looking forward to having a very large stack to work with so that even when I encountered a step that I couldn't do it wouldn't be an issue. I will admit if I was not ok with the concept of clue juggling / didn't want to bother with it I would be much more in favor of the change but I see it as a game mechanic just like prayer flicking where its not necessary to use it but if you do you can gain a significant benefit.

DO NOT MAKE META-CHANGING CHANGES POST-LAUNCH AFTER PEOPLE HAVE LOCKED IN THEIR RELIC SELECTIONS ESPECIALLY AFTER SAYING THAT YOU WEREN'T GOING TO MAKE THESE TYPE OF CHANGES MID-LEAGUE. #MAKEOURCHOICESIMPORTANT #NOCHANGES

11-Nov-2020 20:18:45

Apr

2019

Cacoadragon

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@ Leverter

To me I see this change coming about because people who selected unnatural selection realized finally that clues are difficult to complete and want a major buff to their relic while providing a significant but much smaller in impact buff to the Treasure Seeker relic. I don't deny it makes it both easier but it makes unnatural selection so much better that in my opinion it should be accompanied with a major buff to treasure seeker as well if they are insistent on making a change. Ultimately I do not think they should make any change. Also I know about your example with Bandos but I was using the monster provided as an example and I agree a Treasure Seeker will get more clues from Bandos or other non-superior slayer monsters. The question in that case comes down to do I think that is worth the tradeoff of not taking unnatural selection which in the case of clues being region-locked I think is a definite no for me but in the case of clues not being region-locked as they currently are that it is worth the tradeoff hence why I chose Treasure Seeker and not Unnatural Selection. To me the bigger issue is that they are making changes mid-league.......

DO NOT MAKE META-CHANGING CHANGES POST-LAUNCH AFTER PEOPLE HAVE LOCKED IN THEIR RELIC SELECTIONS ESPECIALLY AFTER SAYING THAT YOU WEREN'T GOING TO MAKE THESE TYPE OF CHANGES MID-LEAGUE. #MAKEOURCHOICESIMPORTANT #NOCHANGES

11-Nov-2020 20:25:07

IceCap Zone

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Cacoadragon said :
I have been storing up my clues to do until the point where I have any of the items that are required stored up that I am willing/able to get. I've done 15 or so beginners and easy clues, 5 or so mediums, and 5 or so hard clues just to get easy task completions but for the real meat of the clue grind I anticipate to be in the last few weeks of the leagues.

I really don't think you realize how bad it is for doing Hard+ clues. If they don't implement this buff, you're going to spend a LOT of your time dropping clues that can't be completed.

Seriously, I wouldn't speak for people who chose this relic unless you've attempted a good amount of Hard clues. I suggest you try it for yourself using what you have banked and see what the completion rates are. It's not like you'll be short on clue drops in the coming weeks.

11-Nov-2020 20:28:45

Spel Casta

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Full support.

This change would be incredible. I love doing clues, but it's really irritating to drop one because I get hard walled by region constantly.

Treasure seekers still get the benefit of stacking clues and not having to stop whatever they're doing to do them, shortest steps, and greater drop rate across the board over superiors. I kind of wish I had taken it when this goes through, but I'll manage as long as I can actually COMPLETE the stupid things.

11-Nov-2020 20:29:49

Apr

2019

Cacoadragon

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@IceCapZone

How many clues do I need to do before I have your blessing to comment even though I took the relic and have a right to have just as much as an opinion as you? I seem to have a very similar number of clues done as you do so does that mean you can't comment as well?

DO NOT MAKE META-CHANGING CHANGES POST-LAUNCH AFTER PEOPLE HAVE LOCKED IN THEIR RELIC SELECTIONS ESPECIALLY AFTER SAYING THAT YOU WEREN'T GOING TO MAKE THESE TYPE OF CHANGES MID-LEAGUE. #MAKEOURCHOICESIMPORTANT #NOCHANGES

11-Nov-2020 20:36:15 - Last edited on 11-Nov-2020 20:40:40 by Cacoadragon

Mar

2016

Magis

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At last a fix for clues. Twisted league had only clues in Zeah, and I was expecting same from Trailblazer. Nothing was said in summary of relic that clues would be all over the map, so changing back to what its supposed to be is only the right way to help people who picked the relic without knowing whats gonna happen when they open their clues. If anything changes from last league, should be noted in description of relic.

11-Nov-2020 20:38:36

3-2-1 Goat

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I think making all is a bit overpowered. Instead maybe making it so 25% of other region clues are ignored/removed if the person has unnatural selection, and anywhere from 50-75% for those with the Clue Relic.

I dont have clue relic, and it is annoying, but I understood when not selecting the clue relic that it would be very hard to complete clue scrolls, yes I'd like a buff, but not a free gift.

11-Nov-2020 20:39:01

Leverter

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@Cacoadragon

You assume much.
You also don't address the issue of other treasure seekers such as myself wanting a change.

So i know you just want to be a wall and say "no", but if you could just not for a moment.
If there was a change, what are your thoughts on what it should be that would fix the problem while also holding to competitive integrity?

I showed you mine, so it's your turn.

11-Nov-2020 20:39:24

Apr

2023

Fe Soulsword

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Please do this. I spent over an hour trying to do a single medium clue (I was juggling the clues, as it probably would have taken days to do a clue from start to finish with the current system). I have Morytania and Fremennik unlocked and plan on choosing Tirannwn next.

11-Nov-2020 20:41:57

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