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Karmafox
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Karmafox

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King Thorge: “Why people are against this are crazy”

I think the question is if we should add a game changing QoL in an already temporary running mode. Earlier there has been said that if it’s not a bug, don’t change something in this league. I agree with this. We learn now and make “better” leagues in the future. So, for the record, I’m not crazy, but I just realize what has been said before and what the positive + negative sides there are for both the Clue as the Slayer Relic players.

15-Nov-2020 16:47:03

Lunavera75

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Jagex has specifically referred to clue juggling in their post, "This would effectively mean that we remove the need to 'juggle' clue scrolls.". The entire point of taking treasure seeker, as we knew we would have to juggle clues due to no area restrictions, was to make juggling easier, by knowing how many steps we needed to juggle to guarantee a casket, and being able to hold on to clues across game sessions.I am for making the game more fun for everyone by region locking clues, but that has to come with a benefit that makes treasure seekers feel they are better with clues than unnatural selection people, or a reroll of relics and areas for people that based their game plan around being able to complete as many clues as possible. Even allowing a reroll of relics doesn't help the people that chose REGIONS based on clue scrolls.

15-Nov-2020 17:27:10

Apestaart14

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One thing I wonder: does treasure seeker always get the minimum steps while juggling? If not, this is an import fix. (Didn't get minimum steps so far, but can made some mistakes as I'm really bad with juggling clues, or it didn't chance the clues in the bank before the relic... :P )

The new concept doesn't change the problem of the first. As TS players can't complete some slayer-based tasks (or will take way longer + luck), but US will be able to hit clue tasks. Both relics are buffed, but US gets the most of it. So I'm still against it. TS needs a small slay-based buff (access to slayer-task only creatures?) or another boost to clues to balance this out (double loot?).

It feels like the problem with the clues only starts when you do hard+ clues. Beginner till med are fine (?). Why not making hard/elite/master 3-5 steps? So you will have a maximum of 4 clues on the ground? (I guess master clues will still be annoying, but let's call that challenging instead)

Unnatural selection is the meta, so most people will be pro. Especially as with the slayer clue drops, you can get hard & elite clues pretty fast. Maybe even faster than TS? And it is really annoying you can't complete them, unless you juggle for an hour.

Also, even as a jagex mod, if you play the gamemode, you will be biased in decisions. Especially if you took US and hit lategame, you would like to grind some extra points. The same goes for TS who stacked hundreds of clues. I wonder %-wise who took TS en US. Looking forward for next stream(s).

If this league will ever be replayed, make clues region locked (T4/5/6 relic). For this league, leave it alone. One thing will be sure: no one will complete all tasks... which is fine.

15-Nov-2020 17:42:20

ODarnUFail
Mar Member 2019

ODarnUFail

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Sounds like a great update to enjoy the fun of doing and opening clues. At the moment I've picked up and attempted 10 hards without being able to compels a single one or even get more then 3 steps in. sounds like a change to allow all players to work towards completing a clue not waiting for the right rng. personally i wont pick up another clue till some change happens just isn't fun to be able to complete the clue.

15-Nov-2020 19:58:19

Perinium
Dec Member 2019

Perinium

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Im sure it has been suggested already but why not just add a perk to the treasure hunter relic that guarantees the clues will be only in your region? And to level it out a tad players who pick unnatural selection, they also receive an eternal slayer ring or slayer helms are automatically imbued.

15-Nov-2020 20:19:29

Zot
Oct Member 2016

Zot

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Merging both relics to give TS the opportunity to play catch up in points and giving the first proposal for the best form of QoL to clues in the game is the fairest compromise for both sides of the discussion.

15-Nov-2020 23:06:14

opogned

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I think a lot of people support the change, but don't bother commenting on it, as they agree . Compared to those who don't support it . Maybe do an in-game poll would give a better image of what all players want.

16-Nov-2020 10:11:00

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