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Oblv XB

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this model doesn't work because you're not adding in variables such as gear value
(not just a rune set), if they died (which happens a good amount from time to time), the fact that you're not always going to make a lot of money & get ancient stats + Vesta Long Swords every kill. Also you didn't add where they would be pking

Multi, Single, Edgeville? gear depends on location

Plus your version only consists of edgeville by the sound of it. but stats are a must, you said it yourself - you're not a pker, so you wouldn't entirely understand all those variables. and you're also forgetting the money that is made from the additional drop system goes on Return Sets, Supplies, and other things essential for Pking. it doesn't just stay there and mean nothing, the money is floating around so people can use it. they'll be more money in the game yes, but it'll help the game grow in a positive direction instead of the slow stagnant one we're currently at.

Everyone Check out my New Thread: Bh Worlds & Poll Questions

1. Should we modify World 325, 337, & 308. To Bounty Hunter Wilderness only worlds?

2. If Question one passses, should we make world 337 non +1 leaving 325 a +1 p2p world & 308 a +1 f2p world

3. Should We add PvP Armours In Weapons into the game from player kills in Bh Only worlds

4 Should we add Brawling gloves in the game from player kills in Bh only worlds?

5. Should we add Stattutes in the game from player kills in bh Only worlds?

6. if question 5 passes, Should we re-locate mandirth from the resource Pit to Edgeville Bank (or re-create his possible brother) so players may sell the statuettes to him for a set price (the same prices as Bh Worlds in 2011)

7. Should we add the Ep & Dp system, but keep the current drop system - making them an additional feature for 3 Other loot tables

8. Should we add targets into Bh Worlds?

Quick find code: 322-323-329-65427413

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17-Jul-2014 13:02:52 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2014 13:12:43 by Oblv XB

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Faicorf

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also try and even out the target if its set as match making (you are your targets target.)

not only level wise but also gear wise, a common problem i had when i used the old bounty hunter was i would be going in rune with a d wep, and id be pitted against a dharoker with a whip or something like that or a hybrid, if it is set to match making try and match the gear players are wearing (if possible i have no idea if it is or not, if not then tough **** i guess haha) i would really like this taken into account if possible

17-Jul-2014 13:09:13

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Faicorf

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this model doesn't work because you're not adding in variables such as gear value
(not just a rune set), if they died (which happens a good amount from time to time), the fact that you're not always going to make a lot of money & get ancient stats + Vesta Long Swords every kill. Also you didn't add where they would be pking

Multi, Single, Edgeville? gear depends on location

Plus your version only consists of edgeville by the sound of it. but stats are a must, you said it yourself - you're not a pker, so you wouldn't entirely understand all those variables. and you're also forgetting the money that is made from the additional drop system goes on Return Sets, Supplies, and other things essential for Pking. it doesn't just stay there and mean nothing, the money is floating around so people can use it. they'll be more money in the game yes, but it'll help the game grow in a positive direction instead of the slow stagnant one we're currently at.

personan*y i highly agree with this guy, it seems he really is a true pker, and truely knows what he is talking about, i agree with the pvp weapons and armour, but as for the statuettes, im not to sure but a defo no to the ep and dp system, that was abused to high hell and drops were not fair, (ie: my friend killed a guy in rune +whip and got a 15m Dragon full helm) now im not going to sit here and say i didnt abuse that system, after i had a 5 hour long war and ive lost 20+ sets of rune in said war, your damn right im gunna use that dp in 76king, but thats exactly what it was, a system that was abused, and not used.

17-Jul-2014 13:14:30

Rawrylol

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this model doesn't work because you're not adding in variables such as gear value

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but it'll help the game grow in a positive direction instead of the slow stagnant one we're currently at.

Okay I still don't think you understand. It doesn't matter what the gear is, it doesn't matter where you PK, it doesn't matter how much you spend on supplies or whatever, that's not the point I'm making. What I'm saying is that there is no money being taken from the game. No matter how much money you personally lose from fluctuations in the market, that money is just transferred to someone else's account when you trade with them.

The only way to take money out of the game is to literally die with actual money and/or drop a cash stack, or to trade with an NPC for whatever reason. Construction does this brilliantly because you have to actually trade with an NPC to make planks. The cash you use here goes directly to the NPC and doesn't go to a player.

You even admit that more money will be in the game. That's not a good thing! It just contributes to inflation. Why do you think people ask for cash sinks so often?

You're looking at it from purely a PKers perspective, which is understandable because you are a PKer. Yes, your profits would go up, and you wouldn't specifically wouldn't necessarily see a lot of the money you get from statues as it'd go back into your supplies, but look at it from the perspective of the rest of the community. People are already complaining about the price of prayer potions due to inflation. People are voting no to things such as the GE as they 'damage the economy'.

If you're wanting some sort of additional benefit to pass, you need to think what the rest of the community wants and come up with a compromise. We don't want statues, think of something else or you'll end up with nothing, which even I don't wanna see, I think some sort of reward would be good! Just not statues.

17-Jul-2014 13:15:24

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1uz 6 speed

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Here is a suggestion to help increase wilderness activity: the alced value required to enter BH should be level-dependant. what i mean by that is for a lvl 30-50 pure/character, 50k is a pretty good loot (considering current average loot being really bad) but for a pure/main of lvl 90-126, 50k is next to nothing in terms of loot. so what i suggest is something along the lines of:

-combat lvl 1-30: minimum 25k alc value
-combat lvl 30-50: minimum 50k alc value
-combat lvl 50-75: minimum 75k alc value
-combat lvl 75-100: minimum 100k alc value
-combat 100+: minimum 200k alc value

this would not add money into the game but it'd guarantee a base amount they would get which is good and it aleviates the problem of having to add extra loots.

for example, Player A, lvl 105, does not do BH and he goes pking with 60k risk, he will fight what he can find, thus not guaranteeing a 200k+ loot upon kill.

On the other hand, Player B, who is also lvl 105, goes pking with 220k risk, qualifying for BH since he has 200k+ risk @ combat lvl 100+, and he gets a target, who also risks 200k+ since it is in the BH system. Now I think that this alone would be incentive enough to make people use the BH system without adding additionnal rewards.

17-Jul-2014 13:17:18

OOGIE MANE

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Alright Jagex after reading through 8 or so pages of feedback I decided to give my opinion.

Teleportation- I understand where you are coming from with it. I saw in an earlier post about it being bounty hunter . Wouldn't you rather enjoy hunting for someone than instantly teleporting to the player/clan. I know you want clans to thrive but us players who prefer not to be in pking clans are going to eventually just leave the bh worlds and the only people there will be big clans*

** Worlds- Like many others have said to make BH worlds you must get rid of PvP worlds. Splitting a community isn't good*

** Loot- We obviously don't want to ruin the economy so why not do this. Add a cash reward only for when you kill your target. Depending on the risk level is the cash you will make from the kill. Lets say your opponent has a red skull above his/her head. If you kill him/her then you will get 150k, then 100k from blue, then 50k from green.

Just my ideas, respond to them with negativity and positivity.

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17-Jul-2014 13:21:08

Oblv XB

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Rawry, the game isn't "capped" there is no limitations - there is only the rumour of limitations from players now.

There is only inflation when people want inflation, personally i would want the game filled with GP that was actually earned, at least then we would end up having a bigger community & player base all together because people would find runescape "easier" to make money and enjoy.

Sorry that we're all adults now, not 12 year olds back in middle school playing runescape grinding for cash because we had the time. Personally i just wanna Pk & have a good time, make some money from it and get off so i can make my Videos and keep my clan active.

There Isn't any other way possible to make pking profitable, this is why i said make 3 additional drop tables so people don't lose money when they get a high risk pk they still get those items + have a shot at the additional 3 tables being activated depending on EP & DP.

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17-Jul-2014 13:23:27

Oblv XB

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Check out my BH world & Poll Questions Thread:
Quick find code: 322-323-329-65427413

1. Should we modify World 325, 337, & 308. To Bounty Hunter Wilderness only worlds?

2. If Question one passses, should we make world 337 non +1 leaving 325 a +1 p2p world & 308 a +1 f2p world

3. Should We add PvP Armours In Weapons into the game from player kills in Bh Only worlds

4 Should we add Brawling gloves in the game from player kills in Bh only worlds?

5. Should we add Stattutes in the game from player kills in bh Only worlds?

6. if question 5 passes, Should we re-locate mandirth from the resource Pit to Edgeville Bank (or re-create his possible brother) so players may sell the statuettes to him for a set price (the same prices as Bh Worlds in 2011)

7. Should we add the Ep & Dp system, but keep the current drop system - making them an additional feature for 3 loot other tables

8. Should we add targets into Bh Worlds?

9. Should we keep the current Wildy / Pking Skull instead of re-introducing the BH Crater wealth skull for the BH Worlds

i believe these are all the questions needed for the moment, if anything else were to be needed or thought up, i'll place them down.

Please share and support this guys, i really want an active wilderness back for not only myself but the rest of the Player base & Multi pking community as well.

UNBAN 3RD AGE MAGE.

BRING BACK JACK!

17-Jul-2014 13:27:18 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2014 13:28:14 by Oblv XB

Rawrylol

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Rawry, the game isn't "capped" there is no limitations - there is only the rumour of limitations from players now.

I never said it is...?

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There is only inflation when people want inflation ... money and enjoy.

Except that you're forgetting that when you first start the game, you don't start with a buttload of cash. You have to make that money, and the likelihood is that the low level moneymakers will always stay at a similar price, as they have done so far while inflation has still been taking place. Look at coal, it's barely risen, if not fallen since the start of OSRS, which the price of everything else has risen around it. This means that instead of having to mine coal for 10 hours to sell for PKing supplies, you'd have to mine it for 20 hours!

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Sorry that we're ... get off so i can make my Videos and keep my clan active.

Runescape is SUPPOSED to be a grind. If you don't enjoy that aspect of it, I'm afraid this isn't the game for you. There are plenty of other games around that offer PvP situations without needing to grind beforehand. I know that sounds harsh, but really, the whole point of Runescape is to grind, that's the whole point of an MMOR*G in fact.

It's not the most fun thing to do in the world, but bypassing that would literally break the way the game works, in this case the economy.

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There Isn't any other way ... have a shot at the additional 3 tables being activated depending on EP & DP.

Sure there is, I even came up with one on page 10/11. Statues will NEVER pass a poll, I'm willing to bet a good few mil on that, so you should be looking at alternatives, otherwise you're just gonna be disappointed at final release.

17-Jul-2014 13:33:03

Oblv XB

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^ this is what happens when PvM & Skillers decide the fate of Pkers.

i'm trying to have a conversation with you but you're contradicting all my points in the worst way possible, not to mention im referring to "Capped" as inflation. there is only inflation where the Gp has no where to go, as long as people are spending that's a good thing? which they are?

We all learned this in school, well most of us should have.

As far as the grind goes, you're insane. i got maxed combat last summer on 07 in july. lol. And the whole Pk community managed to bot their accounts just so we can Pk. 07 wouldn't be around otherwise if Pkers stayed on eoc, we didn't because of the combat.

Point is, there is no other way to do things. Pking needs to give money back to pkers, if there isn't that incentive then there is no point its going to end up being farmed out and safe spotted like wilderness bosses and thats not even pking.

thats pvmers in the wilderness and the pkers are so starved for action they end up killing the Pvmers.

You and the rest of the community need to understand, what it takes to be a PKer and how much it costs, and what is really out in the wilderness. ITS HONESTLY SO BAD RIGHT NOW ITS FREAKING ANNOYING.

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17-Jul-2014 13:42:00

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