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A Lilypad
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CovertAgenda said :
I like how a month ago the gmaul was put in as "to be discussed" the response was largely negative from what I read, and yet here we are. Instead of being polled its an "integrity change" because Jagex KNOWS it would almost definitely fail on a poll. The whole idea behind "integrity changes" is literally just a way for Jagex to say "yea we're gonna change this without polling it even though we said we wouldn't do stuff like that" like seriously. If the plan is to not poll shit, take the poll system out and make it like other MMOs, if the plan is to poll shit, then STOP OVERRIDING THAT WITH THE EXCUSE OF INTEGRITY.

I could not agree more with this sentiment.
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14-Jul-2019 20:17:49

Reminiscon

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A Lilypad said :
I liked the polled changes. However, some of these 'integrity' and discussed changes are ridiculous. The OSRS team being able to put whatever update or change they deem is 'integrity' as unpolled is really starting to become a hard negative and just another excuse opposed to when it first started (rarely) happening.

The BH point requirement for the GMAUL clamp is just absurd. The weapon will literally die in PVP and due to high cost probably just be unused for most other uses as well.

I can see how adding Snare to F2P might be reasonable, but Entangle? Lol. First of all this update kills any hope for F2P PVP clans/battles to ever exist again. Second of all, Entangle is the highest level freeze spell in the game outside of Ancients. Apparently adding that to F2P players is 'improving integrity?'

Making the Imbued Magic cape act like the Fire Cape's death mechanics seems like the most logical choice to go with, but I don't think it really matters much in the end anyway.

Lastly, changing the MECHANICS OF THE GAME because a select few whiny crybaby PKers can't hit their barrages all the time is just narrow-sighted and stupid. That's really what the Magic Defense discussion is about even if it isn't explicitly stated. I thought the bulwark change was a bit unnecessary but at least reasonable. This idea is horrible.


Yeah, no.

First off, integrity fixes are absolutely necessary. How else can we balance the game when literally every nerf to something would fail a poll? When any update to Wilderness fails a poll because people don't want the game to be made harder in any way?

How will we fix death mechanics to be anywhere near as difficult as originally intended if not for an integrity change?

Remember 6 hour AFK NMZ? Removing that couldn't pass a poll. PATHETIC.

Integrity fixes are the best thing ever, and as a TRUE 04-07 veteran I hope they continue increasing in frequency. Those against it are traitors. Long live the Wilderness. Long live risk vs reward in PVM. Long live 2006.

14-Jul-2019 21:10:30

Feldip
Jul Member 2006

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Reminiscon said :

Yeah, no.

First off, integrity fixes are absolutely necessary. How else can we balance the game when literally every nerf to something would fail a poll? When any update to Wilderness fails a poll because people don't want the game to be made harder in any way?

How will we fix death mechanics to be anywhere near as difficult as originally intended if not for an integrity change?

Remember 6 hour AFK NMZ? Removing that couldn't pass a poll. PATHETIC.

Integrity fixes are the best thing ever, and as a TRUE 04-07 veteran I hope they continue increasing in frequency. Those against it are traitors.

Not that they would poll it even without the super-majority because they're corrupt... but if the "integrity" updates can't get over 50% for yes in a simple majority poll then they should not be considered at all in the game, also I love the projection with the traitor comment, very smart guy. Hope you get the Eoc update you always wanted. I'd be a traitor to the liars who thought up these ideas and who support it any day.

15-Jul-2019 02:17:58 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2019 02:18:29 by Feldip

MB128S
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Jagex will never understand that what made RS combat system so unique and fun was the fact that it is not balanced and perfectly fair. There are unique items like the gmaul and the ancient mace, etc. and the combat triangle isn't perfect. A guy that's out geared and out stat-ed actually has a chance of a kill (or escape) with a lucky spec or the right gear and this is what adds excitement, just like in combat sports and that's what makes them popular. You could turn PVP into duel arena which is what most RPGs do but no one will play and this seems exactly what cry baby PKers think they want. Hell, why not redistribute every PKer's bank to the PKers that out-stat and out-gear them and be done with it.

This overbalancing and micro-managing of the combat system is essentially EOC 2.0. See you guys over at old school old school runescape soon!

16-Jul-2019 00:37:41

4AF
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Plz no gmaul nerf, or atleast beta & poll it...

The 3 second timer after spec is still bogus. I understand it helps to combat rushing. There are 2 circumstances where it is not useful. 1] if I get rushed by a voider who I don't want to fight I would like to atleast unload my spec on him without dieing before I telly to maybe prevent him from rushing me next time. 2] if I am fighting a voider with knives and I don't get a good chance to spec before he makes me eat through my food I would like to attempt a rambo before leaving the fight.

16-Jul-2019 04:03:22 - Last edited on 16-Jul-2019 04:05:23 by 4AF

One Dub

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CovertAgenda said :
I like how a month ago the gmaul was put in as "to be discussed" the response was largely negative from what I read, and yet here we are. Instead of being polled its an "integrity change" because Jagex KNOWS it would almost definitely fail on a poll. The whole idea behind "integrity changes" is literally just a way for Jagex to say "yea we're gonna change this without polling it even though we said we wouldn't do stuff like that" like seriously. If the plan is to not poll shit, take the poll system out and make it like other MMOs, if the plan is to poll shit, then STOP OVERRIDING THAT WITH THE EXCUSE OF INTEGRITY.
A Lilypad said :
I liked the polled changes. However, some of these 'integrity' and discussed changes are ridiculous. The OSRS team being able to put whatever update or change they deem is 'integrity' as unpolled is really starting to become a hard negative

The BH point requirement for the GMAUL clamp is just absurd. The weapon will literally die in PVP and due to high cost probably just be unused for most other uses as well.

I can see how adding Snare to F2P might be reasonable, but Entangle? Lol. First of all this update kills any hope for F2P PVP clans/battles to ever exist again. Second of all, Entangle is the highest level freeze spell in the game outside of Ancients. Apparently adding that to F2P players is 'improving integrity?'

Making the Imbued Magic cape act like the Fire Cape's death mechanics seems like the most logical choice to go with, but I don't think it really matters much in the end anyway.

Lastly, changing the MECHANICS OF THE GAME because a select few whiny crybaby PKers can't hit their barrages all the time is just narrow-sighted and stupid. That's really what the Magic Defense discussion is about even if it isn't explicitly stated. I thought the bulwark change was a bit unnecessary but least reasonable. This idea is horrible.
Kinda sums it up

16-Jul-2019 23:17:19

SinReturns23

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Adding snare in F2p is a great idea and a really good follow up after F2p Tb update. Balancing the combat triangle in f2p should be the main objective for OSRS and this update is gives mages a little more strength.
MAGEs are completely under powered in F2p
Mage Max hit is 16
while Range can hit 18
Melles can hit 27s with rune scim and 31 with rune 2h.

more balancing changes are needed.
Next ADD fire wave F2p.
and change magic prayers so that boost damage instead of accuracy and defense. all other combat prayers boost damage and magic should do the same.

19-Jul-2019 12:34:45

Precious_Ice

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This is regarding interfaces:

It is nice that I can note the items I want to
high alch
and run around
high alching
to my hearts content. I wouldn't think of interrupting someone elses playstyle, BUT!

Could you please ALSO allow me simply fill my inventory with un-noted items and give me an interface that allows me to
'Alch all
'.

My pointer finger would be grateful. ;)
Let's Take It Back Old School,
Runescape
!

20-Jul-2019 17:26:01 - Last edited on 20-Jul-2019 17:26:18 by Precious_Ice

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