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KING0FRATS

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I was wondering about gravestones if GWD ever passes the vote and comes to OSRS. Will there be gravestones that your friends can bless if you die in the boss rooms ? Or can they even be brought back to OSRS when it comes to developing ? Of course GWD isn't the only reason why gravestones should come but GWD certainly becomes the most dangerous place to die outside of the wilderness since it takes a while to get kill count

I personally don't mind if they were part of OSRS or not, but just curious.

23-Aug-2013 18:14:30 - Last edited on 23-Aug-2013 18:18:28 by KING0FRATS

Angel2D4

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I think we're not even in the same book Ash. lol

Let me try again.

If the version of GWD that is offered in the first poll about it, doesn't achieve 75% support.. will you guys be looking at a way to change what you offer.. so that the players could have a second chance at voting for GWD.. or will this be a 'one and only' offer of GWD?

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With 'changes' I'm not talking about things you 'must' fix. Ofc those things will be done without asking the players. I'm talking about things such as spikes dropping instead of boots.. or AGS taking the entire spec bar (or adding new staffs or bows) or even, un-noting addy bar drops, or removing them. Will things such as this require 75% in order to change them, or is that undecided at this time? "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

23-Aug-2013 18:15:23

Hi_Im_Mobbin

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I think we're not even in the same book Ash. lol

Let me try again.

If the version of GWD that is offered in the first poll about it, doesn't achieve 75% support.. will you guys be looking at a way to change what you offer.. so that the players could have a second chance at voting for GWD.. or will this be a 'one and only' offer of GWD?

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With 'changes' I'm not talking about things you 'must' fix. Ofc those things will be done without asking the players. I'm talking about things such as spikes dropping instead of boots.. or AGS taking the entire spec bar (or adding new staffs or bows) or even, un-noting addy bar drops, or removing them. Will things such as this require 75% in order to change them, or is that undecided at this time?

Obvious will req 75%...

23-Aug-2013 18:17:43

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I was wondering about gravestones if GWD ever passes the vote and comes to OSRS. Will there be gravestones that your friends can bless if you die in the boss rooms ?
We don't have some of the game engine features that were created for implementing gravestones. Even in late 2007, gravestones were extremely rudimentary compared to the 2013 version; the game engine of 2013 is miles ahead of what OSRS uses. Sorry, gravestones aren't looking promising.

Bear in mind that gravestones were created when there was a trade limit and your friends couldn't pick up your stuff to return to you. We don't have the trade limit, and no-one's asking for it, so you might be able to cope without gravestones, like people did when the GWD first came out.

23-Aug-2013 18:19:08

KING0FRATS

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I was wondering about gravestones if GWD ever passes the vote and comes to OSRS. Will there be gravestones that your friends can bless if you die in the boss rooms ?
We don't have some of the game engine features that were created for implementing gravestones. Even in late 2007, gravestones were extremely rudimentary compared to the 2013 version; the game engine of 2013 is miles ahead of what OSRS uses. Sorry, gravestones aren't looking promising.

Bear in mind that gravestones were created when there was a trade limit and your friends couldn't pick up your stuff to return to you. We don't have the trade limit, and no-one's asking for it, so you might be able to cope without gravestones, like people did when the GWD first came out.

yeah, thank you for answering

I really don't mind if they were part of the game or not, but I was just curious.

23-Aug-2013 18:23:30

Angel2D4

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I think we're not even in the same book Ash. lol

Let me try again.

If the version of GWD that is offered in the first poll about it, doesn't achieve 75% support.. will you guys be looking at a way to change what you offer.. so that the players could have a second chance at voting for GWD.. or will this be a 'one and only' offer of GWD?

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With 'changes' I'm not talking about things you 'must' fix. Ofc those things will be done without asking the players. I'm talking about things such as spikes dropping instead of boots.. or AGS taking the entire spec bar (or adding new staffs or bows) or even, un-noting addy bar drops, or removing them. Will things such as this require 75% in order to change them, or is that undecided at this time?

Obvious will req 75%...

''Provisionally, we'd expect to offer those in the same way we offered extra rewards for the Nightmare Zone, where a 75% threshold was required for the minigame itself, and separate questions required 75% support for additional items that could come along with it. If the extra features don't pass their polls, but the GWD itself does, we'll still be able to offer adjustments to it in future polls after its launch, based on your feedback.''

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Provisionally: Subject to further confirmation

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Not so 'obvious' when you know what 'provisionally' means. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

23-Aug-2013 18:29:57

Hi_Im_Mobbin

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I think we're not even in the same book Ash. lol

Let me try again.

If the version of GWD that is offered in the first poll about it, doesn't achieve 75% support.. will you guys be looking at a way to change what you offer.. so that the players could have a second chance at voting for GWD.. or will this be a 'one and only' offer of GWD?

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With 'changes' I'm not talking about things you 'must' fix. Ofc those things will be done without asking the players. I'm talking about things such as spikes dropping instead of boots.. or AGS taking the entire spec bar (or adding new staffs or bows) or even, un-noting addy bar drops, or removing them. Will things such as this require 75% in order to change them, or is that undecided at this time?

Obvious will req 75%...

''Provisionally, we'd expect to offer those in the same way we offered extra rewards for the Nightmare Zone, where a 75% threshold was required for the minigame itself, and separate questions required 75% support for additional items that could come along with it. If the extra features don't pass their polls, but the GWD itself does, we'll still be able to offer adjustments to it in future polls after its launch, based on your feedback.''

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Provisionally: Subject to further confirmation

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Not so 'obvious' when you know what 'provisionally' means.

Its obvious will req 75% to add spikes or ags spec to full bar... i know what provisionally means...

23-Aug-2013 18:33:03

Angel2D4

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I think we're not even in the same book Ash. lol

Let me try again.

If the version of GWD that is offered in the first poll about it, doesn't achieve 75% support.. will you guys be looking at a way to change what you offer.. so that the players could have a second chance at voting for GWD.. or will this be a 'one and only' offer of GWD?

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With 'changes' I'm not talking about things you 'must' fix. Ofc those things will be done without asking the players. I'm talking about things such as spikes dropping instead of boots.. or AGS taking the entire spec bar (or adding new staffs or bows) or even, un-noting addy bar drops, or removing them. Will things such as this require 75% in order to change them, or is that undecided at this time?

Obvious will req 75%...

''Provisionally, we'd expect to offer those in the same way we offered extra rewards for the Nightmare Zone, where a 75% threshold was required for the minigame itself, and separate questions required 75% support for additional items that could come along with it. If the extra features don't pass their polls, but the GWD itself does, we'll still be able to offer adjustments to it in future polls after its launch, based on your feedback.''

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Provisionally: Subject to further confirmation

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Not so 'obvious' when you know what 'provisionally' means.

Its obvious will req 75% to add spikes or ags spec to full bar... i know what provisionally means...

If you're 'right' and it REQUIRES 75% presently, a jmod would have no issue with confirming that.

As currently stated, it's undecided at this time. Subject to 'further confirmation' means it is not decided (else why would further confirmation be needed lmao).

It's ok knoxi, I knew it was a question that couldn't be answered at this time. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

23-Aug-2013 18:37:09

Mod Ash

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I think we're not even in the same book Ash. lol
Gotta love text-based online discussions. Sorry.

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If the version of GWD that is offered in the first poll about it, doesn't achieve 75% support.. will you guys be looking at a way to change what you offer.. so that the players could have a second chance at voting for GWD.. or will this be a 'one and only' offer of GWD?
Depends how close it gets to passing. If it gets 73% support, it's clearly worth pursuing. If it got more like 25% support, I'd conclude that it's not worth going there again. While I can see why you might like to know the entire plan up front so that you've got plenty of transparency, any plan we make ought to have the flexibility to change as events unfold. So my answer is "I don't know, sorry".

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With 'changes' I'm not talking about things you 'must' fix. Ofc those things will be done without asking the players. I'm talking about things such as spikes dropping instead of boots.. or AGS taking the entire spec bar (or adding new staffs or bows) or even, un-noting addy bar drops, or removing them. Will things such as this require 75% in order to change them, or is that undecided at this time?
Ah, okay. You had me worried for a minute - if you couldn't stand the idea of us changing anything at all without a poll, that's a rather more fundamental problem!

For new items, such as adding extra ranged/magic weapons, or extra armour, or extra add-ons for existing kit, I would envisage us requiring 75%, like we did for the optional extra rewards for Nightmare Zone. I think that poll worked quite well.

I'm going to have to leave the rest of the question for now. When we've identified exactly what would be changed, and the rest of my colleagues are available for discussion, we'll be able to post exactly what's being offered and how the poll questions will be written. That'll be the focus of next week's blog.

Unfortunately time's getting on, and I have to be going. I'm sorry I can't stay and chat longer now.

EDIT: When I say "provisionally", it's because you guys are posting feedback, and we're using that feedback to decide what to do. That's why I like leaving room for plans to change - if I didn't, it'd be too late to respond to what you're posting on this thread.

23-Aug-2013 18:38:20 - Last edited on 23-Aug-2013 18:41:58 by Mod Ash

Angel2D4

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Thank you Ash. I knew you could not directly answer 'all' of my questions at this time (and that's ok too) and I greatly appreciate you taking the time to answer what you could. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

23-Aug-2013 18:41:13

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