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Heuristik
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Heuristik

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Reminiscon said :


Ok, so freeze the timer when DC'd. That counters DDOS. Then put a short timer.

Anything further is just Easyscape, and coming from anybody that played back in 04-07 it is simply the truth.


My point is not fiddling with timers and countermeasures for DDOS at all, it's usless. You ought to get rid of DDoS entirely, make sure that DDoS are not needed, in any case. (Unless of course you're a criminal against Jagex).

Nowadays a 13 years old wanker with average knowledge can download a moderately cheap tool to DDOS anybody in almost full anonimity and unless your name is Google, you're fucked. You ought to get rid of the reason WHY those 13 years morons want to DDoS you!

And again, you want something very Old School, very 2004-2007. Well, breaking news: you can't expect software that old to work fine in 2018 servers that are much more resilient against attacks.

01-Jul-2018 13:40:02

Viet It

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nak0z said :
Pot of Grief said :
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Winky Left said :
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Coldculate said :
Reminiscon said :
This is absolutely disgraceful, this is literally the worst thing I have ever read for Old School, EVER. Shame on you. 50k cap? So people can just take their best gear and never lose anything except a measly 50k? Guess Dragon Axe will remain at alch value. Oh yeah and 20 mins that freezes when logged off? So what's the risk then? There's still ZERO risk. Why even bother changing the mechanics? Don't even, just leave it as is. You accomplished NOTHING.

Separate death mechanics for UIM? Why not make it harder for regular accounts then? Give us back old death mechanics with maximum 5 minute timer (which could freeze when logged off or DC'd).


By the way, what is this? "We proposed adding an option to boost combat stats to 99 (it wouldn't affect the equipment you're able to wield, and you wouldn't gain XP). The feedback we received was that it didn't feel particularly Old School. We've opted not to proceed with this approach."


Fair enough. Then allow me to inform you of this VERY simple and clear fact. Gravestones ARE NOT OLD SCHOOL. So perhaps following the same logic, you will opt not to proceed with that very reprehensible piece of Easyscape content.


Sincerely, a maxed player and veteran from 2005.

01-Jul-2018 18:28:54

Xray 1014
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Xray 1014

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Most of these changes look okay.... BUT



DUEL ARENA:

only staking gp
having to stake similar amounts
tax

All this is completely NOT oldschool. if you want to make it so that you can't take darts out of stuff I think that's ok.


GRAVESTONES:
No! please no. either leave it alone or go back to 2 min.


Conclusion: None of this is needed. Please guys...sometimes you just have to leave it alone. We do not need our hands held in the duel arena. If you can't handle staking your money you should not be staking....I don't know how these scams work but guess what. I'm either going to not stake or be really careful.
Gravestones do not belong in oldschool. Come on guys. Most of these changes are fine and stop bots which I"m okay with but do not do this stuff.

03-Jul-2018 02:43:52 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2018 02:44:33 by Xray 1014

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While the minor changes are fine the death mechanics and staking changes are disgraceful to integrity of the game. If people can't handle the old death mechanics then just leave it how it is. What you are going to implement is a completely new game that links gp to dying on the entire plane of runescape. There are plenty of money sinks and they are vital to the game's economy but every death requiring some form of gp to get your own items back instead of just going back and picking them up, I think that drastic of a change is going to have unusual consequences on the game that you (Jagex) and the players will not fully be able to predict the long-term effects on the game. It seems to me that you made up a compromise as if it was either the old mechanics or the current with no in-between. Did ya think about, you know, just cutting the current timer down to 30 minutes or 20 minutes and trying that? I don't really get why you would risk adding any extra changes to death first instead of just reducing the timer and watching the results for a while.

As far as staking I don't see what logic there is behind implementing a gp/platinum token only wager system when items are tradeable for the exact same currency. Their value is literally based on the only currency in the game if they are tradeable...so if the only items you can stake is an item that is tradeable for gp I would love to hear what evidence you have to support your argument that this is somehow "protecting" the game's integrity. As for the imbalanced stakes I guess I can't say it's that big of a deal except in the 14 years of reading and watching stakers it's always been customary to offer your opponent a chance to get some of their money back when you clear them out by staking 2:1 or 1:0 etc. out of respect. Beyond that anyone who duels a weaker opponent in an imbalanced ratio stake and loses lost fairly. The weaker player took a risk against a stronger opponent and won, he risked a lot knowing the odds were ag

03-Jul-2018 20:48:35

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against him*. Conversely the stronger player figured his risk of losing his larger stake was statistically low so he was willing to take that chance for the more likely reward of the lower stake than his.

Am I just missing some piece of evidence that you haven't presented to the players through your posts about these 2 issues so far which factually disproves the points I brought up in my argument(s)?

Appreciate any response from Jagex, I'm 25 and started in 6th grade, so, please?

03-Jul-2018 20:49:10

Andy Badboy
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It's nice to see all those mods replies and opinions around here. It makes me feel they really care about this kind of update.

I really wonder who comes up with those ideas ?

Mod Mat K , Mod Ash , i expected some strong arguments from the "old guardians" of the game.

04-Jul-2018 15:46:25

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