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Itchy Scalp
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Itchy Scalp

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The fact you've even considered this is worrying. Also,

""The movement of gold between RuneScape and Old School via the gold swapping clans is well established and has been facilitating the use of bonds in Old School for a long time now. Bringing bonds directly into Old School will remove the risk that gold swapping clans bring.""

So essentially you can buy gold in oldschool runescape (via other players I know, that doesn't make it any better). And you guys are totally fine with this? You're totally fine with the fact we could buy gold in Runescape 3 and then transfer it to Oldschool. You don't think that ruins the game for people who don't want it to be about how much irl cash you have?

How about you ban any gold transferring between games, so this game is seperate from Runescape 3 and actually keeps its integrity. Disgrace, this sort of thing is why you guys have lost so many subscribers yet you're still so blind to it, do you learn?

This is so true, however with all the recent failures Jagex have put on for us it doesn't come as a surprise that they want to implement micro-transactions into the game. They're probably thinking, "Wow, look at this untapped market of Spins and RuneCoins and Bonds. What a big profit that would make!" And then their eyes proceed to turn into dollar signs.


This is the perception that many of the players of old felt that Jagex left them with over the years with micro-transactions and bonds. It is a perception that I distinguish from the OSRS team that I feel are doing what the players want. If I feel for anyone right now it is them, they are going to get some backlash for even presenting this as an idea, something I don't feel they deserve; anyone for Markdonalds?

18-Jul-2014 16:14:19

Rawrylol

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First of all, you have the positives; people can buy memberships with them and Jagex actually makes more profit from bonds than a regular membership. Plus, people already buy OSRS gold for real life money, whether they do it from an illegitimate source or they transfer the wealth from RS3 where they've already sold bonds, so all this would do is hopefully reduce the amount of bots AND cut out the scamming middle man when transferring gold between OSRS and RS3.

But then, of course you have the worrying negatives; I'm personally not too worried about people buying thousands of bonds and selling them to build a nice bank, because that's ridiculous, but I'm more worried that those bonds devalue the time that people have spent making money so far on OSRS. Plus, it does make it easier to get buyable xp.

However, I then thought about that last sentence and wondered how much easier it actually makes it. Considering that the current exchange rate between OSRS and RS3 is 1:6 or so, and bonds cost around 6mil on RS3, that means that a bond would cost 1mil on OSRS roughly. If it's more than that, it'd be better value to swap the gold back from RS3. If it's less than that, RS3 players would do the opposite.

1 bond costs £3 in real life terms, meaning 1mil OSRS is £3. That doesn't sound too bad, but then when you consider that Bandos Tassets and Chestplate would be equal to £75 worth of bonds and an AGS is worth over £180, it really starts to hit home how much money people would have to pour into them to abuse them.

Look at Prayer, that's around 105mil using dragon bones I believe. 105mil is equal to £315. How many players are really going to spend £315 on Runescape, just for 99 Prayer? And it's similar with all the other buyables that are actually worth something (Not cooking, fletching etc). In reality, I really don't think there'd be many people there to abuse


Quoting this so people can see bonds aren't that bad!

18-Jul-2014 16:14:46

Tromosthus
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Tromosthus

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I am usually in favor of new things for OSRS because I believe it needs to grow in content in order to grow in members. That is the reason I am in favor of a GE.

However, I am completely opposed to any type of official RWT in OSRS. The positives of Bonds are outweighed by one unavoidable fact:

People would be able to buy gold in the game instead of having to earn it.

I am a proponent of letting EOC suffer with all of the microtransactions and keeping OSRS free of them.

NO SUPPORT.

18-Jul-2014 16:18:51

Itchy Scalp
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Itchy Scalp

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Look at Prayer, that's around 105mil using dragon bones I believe. 105mil is equal to £315. How many players are really going to spend £315 on Runescape, just for 99 Prayer? And it's similar with all the other buyables that are actually worth something (Not cooking, fletching etc). In reality, I really don't think there'd be many people there to abuse [/q


You look at a player with 99 construction, prayer, fletching etc... holding an AGS. You ask how he made his fortune - he says bonds... Feeling deflated, knowing you would never be able to afford that, or put in the effort for those stats and items that someone can just 'buy', you quit the game...

18-Jul-2014 16:19:58

Rawrylol

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People would be able to buy gold in the game instead of having to earn it.



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1 bond costs £3 in real life terms, meaning 1mil OSRS is £3. That doesn't sound too bad, but then when you consider that Bandos Tassets and Chestplate would be equal to £75 worth of bonds and an AGS is worth over £180, it really starts to hit home how much money people would have to pour into them to abuse them.

Look at Prayer, that's around 105mil using dragon bones I believe. 105mil is equal to £315. How many players are really going to spend £315 on Runescape, just for 99 Prayer? And it's similar with all the other buyables that are actually worth something (Not cooking, fletching etc). In reality, I really don't think there'd be many people there to abuse



Barely.

18-Jul-2014 16:20:46

FriskyDingo
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I think adding in bonds would be a great addition to OSRS. I understand that the biggest problem people have with them is that someone pays real money for them which they can turn into in-game gold.
The way the effect of this can be minimized is placing a cap on the amount of bonds you can buy per month with actual currency (Say like 2-4).
Now, for someone buying a bond with ingame gold, there should be no cap to that. The reason for this being if you buy the bond with ingame gold it will only be able to pay for membership and runefest.

18-Jul-2014 16:20:47

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