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Rawrylol

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Look at Prayer, that's around 105mil using dragon bones I believe. 105mil is equal to £315. How many players are really going to spend £315 on Runescape, just for 99 Prayer? And it's similar with all the other buyables that are actually worth something (Not cooking, fletching etc). In reality, I really don't think there'd be many people there to abuse [/q

You look at a player with 99 construction, prayer, fletching etc... holding an AGS. You ask how he made his fortune - he says bonds... Feeling deflated, knowing you would never be able to afford that, or put in the effort for those stats and items that someone can just 'buy', you quit the game...


If they had all that, I'd take solace in the fact that they've spent probably close to, if not more than £1000 on the game. I wouldn't feel deflated at all, in fact it'd make me thankful that I don't need to spend that much money on the game to have fun, and I'd feel a lot more thankful for all I have on RS.

18-Jul-2014 16:22:13

Saxo
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Mod Reach posted a while back that bonds could be added, but the pay to win side of it was kept to RS3

I support that but I don't support the pay to win side of it being on OSRS. I'd really like a way to buy membership with OSRS GP (as long as the rate is good compared to rs3) but at the cost of the game becoming pay to win? No thanks..

Basically..

Bonds with no pay to win on OSRS(keep it on rs3) = Yes
Bonds with pay to win on OSRS = No
Official GP transfer system between games = Yes I think.

18-Jul-2014 16:23:03 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2014 16:23:50 by Saxo

Coramoor

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Look at Prayer, that's around 105mil using dragon bones I believe. 105mil is equal to £315. How many players are really going to spend £315 on Runescape, just for 99 Prayer? And it's similar with all the other buyables that are actually worth something (Not cooking, fletching etc). In reality, I really don't think there'd be many people there to abuse

Okay, a 16 year old working at mcdonalds makes £40 a day. That's 8 hours work. Given that there are undoubtedly many 16 year olds playing RS with weekend/summer jobs there are many people that earn this. How many 16 year olds have bills/necessary expenditures? Very few.

Now, £40 is roughly 13 bonds. That's 13m by your estimate (which is not accurate at all as rates are currently 1:9). That's over 1.5m an hour.

Now I ask, who would rather grind rs for 5 hours at 300k/hr than work for one?

And trust me, there are MANY people who would spend their wage on RS.

18-Jul-2014 16:24:35

Itchy Scalp
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"If they had all that, I'd take solace in the fact that they've spent probably close to, if not more than £1000 on the game. I wouldn't feel deflated at all, in fact it'd make me thankful that I don't need to spend that much money on the game to have fun, and I'd feel a lot more thankful for all I have on RS."

You know I am actually glad this conversation is happening; i am seeing perspectives I could never see under these rose tinted glasses lol.

18-Jul-2014 16:26:10 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2014 16:26:36 by Itchy Scalp

Heritage
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I understand the good things about bonds, but the problem that it causes legit buyable gold and that's what will make me vote no on this. It would simply damage game content too much. I understand that bots already damage the game by selling gold, but making it legal is not the way to go to stop this.

18-Jul-2014 16:26:24

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I think adding in bonds would be a great addition to OSRS. I understand that the biggest problem people have with them is that someone pays real money for them which they can turn into in-game gold.
The way the effect of this can be minimized is placing a cap on the amount of bonds you can buy per month with actual currency (Say like 2-4).
Now, for someone buying a bond with ingame gold, there should be no cap to that. The reason for this being if you buy the bond with ingame gold it will only be able to pay for membership and runefest.


That is something we could do, limit the amount of bonds an account can buy.

18-Jul-2014 16:26:55

big ape dog

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Would only be comfortable with bonds if they could only be bought using Old School GP - no IRL transactions.

This doesn't make any sense at all. You don't understand the point of bonds. Money has to reach the hands of Jagex in order for somebody to get membership. Somebody has to pay for that bond in order for it to be able to be exchanged for GP. There has to be IRL transactions.

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I understand the good things about bonds, but the problem that it causes legit buyable gold and that's what will make me vote no on this. It would simply damage game content too much. I understand that bots already damage the game by selling gold, but making it legal is not the way to go to stop this.

Gold buying is happening already. If bonds are introduced nothing will change. Nothing.

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Honestly, people, think about it. People are doing this already, but the only difference is that the bond sellers and buyers each have to log on to a Rs3 f2p world to finalize the trade. Not only that, this encourages scammers because they have to take the money on one game in exchange for money. This gives scammers a prime opportunity to gyp innocents out of 1-1.5m at a time.

Bonds wouldn't be a bad addition to the game and wouldn't change ANYTHING.

18-Jul-2014 16:26:56 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2014 16:27:51 by big ape dog

Saxo
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Is there a viable way to introduce bonds into old school without letting people buy OSRS gold with them?

Sadly not, that is the pay off for them and something that you guys need to decide if you are comfortable with. Mod reach posted a while back that the GP could be kept on RS3

The way he was explaining it, it would be like:

Player RS3 buys bond
Player RS3 sells bond on GE
Player OSRS buys a bond for OSRS gp from an NPC
Player RS3 gets the RS3 GP, Player OSRS GP is removed from the game in exchange for an untradable bond

Is this out of the cards then..? because he seemed pretty hopeful that something like this was possible.. Obviously it would need a fixed OSRS>RS3 gp rate, but I don't see why something like this couldn't work, with some work?

18-Jul-2014 16:27:19 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2014 16:28:14 by Saxo

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