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Ferocire

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Coach Trip said :
Why do Jagex bother with polls if they are simply going to re-poll every idea that fails until it passes? I believe this kind of elitist, arrogant and patronising attitude is one the reasons why the number of players fell off a cliff on the main game.

PvP armour and keys clearly are not popular enough with your customers so why not move on and think of alternative awards? There is already too much overpowered gear on the game and the proposed PvP armour only makes the game unbalanced even further.

I will continue to vote 'no'.


Because they understand that the polling system is flawed (nothing can be done about that but still). So they make adjustments based on feedback, then repoll.
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12-Nov-2017 18:00:34 - Last edited on 12-Nov-2017 18:16:38 by Ferocire

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Ferocire said :
Coach Trip said :
Why do Jagex bother with polls if they are simply going to re-poll every idea that fails until it passes? I believe this kind of elitist, arrogant and patronising attitude is one the reasons why the number of players fell off a cliff on the main game.

PvP armour and keys clearly are not popular enough with your customers so why not move on and think of alternative awards? There is already too much overpowered gear on the game and the proposed PvP armour only makes the game unbalanced even further.

I will continue to vote 'no'.


Because they understand that the polling system is flawed (nothing can be done about that but still). So they make adjustments based on feedback, then repoll.


It's more likely that they were unhappy with the outcome (after all, they'd already designed content and had it ready to go into the game) and simply decided to repoll it (I mean, the decisions to repoll this stuff was made before the poll for it ended).

So.. when it fails.. again.. they'll just keep repolling until they get the result they want?

In which case, I'm with Sam, and will continue to vote no.. and y'all wonder why this wildy crap is so vehemently opposed. lol
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12-Nov-2017 18:34:35

Ferocire

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Angel2D4 said :

It's more likely that they were unhappy with the outcome (after all, they'd already designed content and had it ready to go into the game) and simply decided to repoll it (I mean, the decisions to repoll this stuff was made before the poll for it ended).

So.. when it fails.. again.. they'll just keep repolling until they get the result they want?

In which case, I'm with Sam, and will continue to vote no.. and y'all wonder why this wildy crap is so vehemently opposed. lol


If that was the case, they would have repolled the vamps.

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Although they are at a higher pass percentage than the PvP armours, it was clear with the feedback received that many people feel an item like this should come from another piece of content.


Nor would they have bothered with making changes which people asked for.

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A lot of people were concerned over the effectiveness of the Amulet of Peril, especially when it came to accounts built specifically for rushing . We also saw a lot of very valid comments regarding the full details of the amulet not being released, which understandably hindered their decision to vote


We've been thinking of ways we can change up the Amulet of Peril based on your feedback and we'd like to propose two potential options. If there is overwhelming feedback received for a particular one, that will get added to the poll. If there is no clear favourite, we will look to poll the amulet concept with both options to choose from if the main amulet question passes , in which case the favoured vote would win.


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Many players were concerned about people switching to the PvP armours for a single tick simply to spec or tank, in an attempt to avoid the degradation timer........ We've now changed the way the degradation timer works .
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12-Nov-2017 20:25:43 - Last edited on 12-Nov-2017 20:42:39 by Ferocire

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What Jagex should do is put out preliminary polls for the purpose of obtaining feedback and then do an official, one time only pass or no pass poll once they are satisfied with the content that they are offering. This way they can still utilize the polls to garner feedback and polish the questions without giving the impression of repolling until whatever they want passed passes. Old School Update Priority: Fix Broken Skills > Revitalize Dead Minigames > Everything Else

12-Nov-2017 21:11:11

Coach Trip
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PANGPANGPANG said :
Coach Trip said :
Why do Jagex bother with polls if they are simply going to re-poll every idea that fails until it passes? I believe this kind of elitist, arrogant and patronising attitude is one the reasons why the number of players fell off a cliff on the main game.

PvP armour and keys clearly are not popular enough with your customers so why not move on and think of alternative awards? There is already too much overpowered gear on the game and the proposed PvP armour only makes the game unbalanced even further.

I will continue to vote 'no'.


PvP armours, yes you are right they definitely weren't popular enough and didn't pass for a reason. Keys, however got 74% and only didn't pass because of chinese/venezuelan gold farmers voting no. So you, are stupid.


Where is your evidence of Venezuelan and Chinese gold farmers rigging the poll? Next you will be blaming the Russians... Also, I am sure you wouldn't be objecting to the results of the poll if it had passed the 75% threshold.

Dropping the 'S' word eh? You are clearly too gangsta for this forum.

12-Nov-2017 21:58:16

Coach Trip
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Ferocire said :
Coach Trip said :
Why do Jagex bother with polls if they are simply going to re-poll every idea that fails until it passes? I believe this kind of elitist, arrogant and patronising attitude is one the reasons why the number of players fell off a cliff on the main game.

PvP armour and keys clearly are not popular enough with your customers so why not move on and think of alternative awards? There is already too much overpowered gear on the game and the proposed PvP armour only makes the game unbalanced even further.

I will continue to vote 'no'.


Because they understand that the polling system is flawed (nothing can be done about that but still). So they make adjustments based on feedback, then repoll.


The 'adjustments' are minor at best and they clearly intend to re-package rejected ideas until they eventually pass the poll.

The PvP armour questions failed to meet the threshold by a significant margin so Jagex should completely re-think their plans.

12-Nov-2017 22:10:30

Coach Trip
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Angel2D4 said :
Ferocire said :
Coach Trip said :
Why do Jagex bother with polls if they are simply going to re-poll every idea that fails until it passes? I believe this kind of elitist, arrogant and patronising attitude is one the reasons why the number of players fell off a cliff on the main game.

PvP armour and keys clearly are not popular enough with your customers so why not move on and think of alternative awards? There is already too much overpowered gear on the game and the proposed PvP armour only makes the game unbalanced even further.

I will continue to vote 'no'.


Because they understand that the polling system is flawed (nothing can be done about that but still). So they make adjustments based on feedback, then repoll.


It's more likely that they were unhappy with the outcome (after all, they'd already designed content and had it ready to go into the game) and simply decided to repoll it (I mean, the decisions to repoll this stuff was made before the poll for it ended).

So.. when it fails.. again.. they'll just keep repolling until they get the result they want?

In which case, I'm with Sam, and will continue to vote no.. and y'all wonder why this wildy crap is so vehemently opposed. lol


Thank you for your sensible post. It is very suspicious that this is being re-proposed so soon after the vote closed, which supports your theory of Jagex shoehorning this in to the game regardless of whether it has sufficient support.

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13-Nov-2017 00:45:38

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IYuVao said :
Mod Ayiza said :
Run Deeper said :
Doubt you will read this but can you poll these two items from the last poll.
1) amulet of smite - increases smite to deal 1/3 of your damage dealt to prayer increased from 1/4.
2) the ring that has a chance to activate your bolt spec more often.
They are both really good rewards and would hold a high value and didn't fail by much last time.

and finally a new addition
amulet of deflection: When a PLAYER hits your protection prayer with the attack style you are protecting from a small bit of damage is reflected. It would be stronger than a recoil but not extremely strong.

this would be good for Nh pkers are tribridders. should have similar stats to a glory maybe with +1 str.


I saw the post, sorry if I haven't replied but it doesn't mean it's gone unnoticed :)

Be mindful of the ring given we are soon bringing Dragon Bolts into the game, which may open up a lot more uses of the gem tipped bolts.

I think the Amulet may be worth re-visiting, I'll have a chat with the team.

Interesting idea with the deflection amulet too, I'd like it if we made it degrade like ring of recoils. Would this be used much though if we added both the Amulet of Peril and the Amulet of Smiting?

If you think about re-polling the amulet of smite can you consider doing something about ancient mace first? insane just how overpowered it could end up being. Also can you look at re-polling to make god d hide chaps 1 def.


Support for god chaps being looked at again

13-Nov-2017 04:17:49

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