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Mod Ayiza

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MyTurn 2Pk said :
Plonka said :
The 10 lamp cap is abit sucky imo, why not make it so every lamp you use it costs +1m to open,

Lamp 1 = 3m
Lamp 2 = 4m
Lamp 3 = 5m
Lamp 20 = 22m

This would make it stupidly expensive for anyone to try anything stupid and not put a cap on people using them. This sounds a lot better than the original idea

The lamp is to reduce a small amount of XP for a player that may have made a mistake. It's not meant to be a way for players to reduce their stats below requirements after completing them, which is why we need a limit.

10-Nov-2017 16:07:30

MyTurn 2Pk

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Loot key change is bullshit, it should stay as it was.
I got an idea for pvp armours to be actually worth fighting players using it, not sure how viable it is to code it, but you could make a similar to lootshare system, when you kill someone with pvp armours it gets dumped into g.e and you just get coins. The only problem is that you can't simply sell degraded pvp armour, so maybe when total of 125% charges of an item is lost, 1 full item gets dumped into g.e, and players would just get 75% of an item value(depending on how much charges it has) when they kill someone with it

10-Nov-2017 16:10:14

MyTurn 2Pk

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Mod Ayiza said :
MyTurn 2Pk said :
Plonka said :
The 10 lamp cap is abit sucky imo, why not make it so every lamp you use it costs +1m to open,

Lamp 1 = 3m
Lamp 2 = 4m
Lamp 3 = 5m
Lamp 20 = 22m

This would make it stupidly expensive for anyone to try anything stupid and not put a cap on people using them. This sounds a lot better than the original idea

The lamp is to reduce a small amount of XP for a player that may have made a mistake. It's not meant to be a way for players to reduce their stats below requirements after completing them, which is why we need a limit. Sometimes player can gain over 5k experience by accident if they not notice their attack style, and are afking something. You could always make quest reward exp to be "locked" to avoid any abuse, because people will find a way to get small advantages with it regardless if that's not done. And there will always be players that will need to remove slightly above the cap exp to fix their accounts

10-Nov-2017 16:15:38

Netcat

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The loot key update is bs it literally only helps clans now and what if u kill someone and they drop a single empty bucket? Wasted loot key? Voting no. Just implement the original or PvP is gonna be dead by next year.

10-Nov-2017 16:59:38

H4iden
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Curious as to why neither you or Sween is responding to anyone about simply NOT putting the armors into the game? This entire update appears to be super forced, you guys need to take more time to see what the community wants from this and what will work to actually rejuvenate pking, not what a vocal minority want for their limited style of pking. This update stinks from the top down. An amulet that completely nerfs owning dharok's or having the defence requirement for it (will promote ragging, btw). A set of armors that was a clear stepping stone towards the destruction of an entire game that you're allowing to be abused with both the time restraints and the gp rewarded on death. Oh, and, you're ignoring the vast majority of the PvP community that isn't 80+ defence. An amulet to improve smiting that will last less than half of a single fight. An entire new area of the wilderness that will be dead content because it won't be worth for any single player to go there since it will be constantly ravaged by teams.

This entire update is geared to promote the same cancerous conditions in PvP that have many people avoiding it entirely. You're NOT promoting new or even old single (as in not in a team/clan) pkers to PK. You're NOT promoting PvMers or Skillers to enter the wilderness more since there will still be better, safer ways to gain GP outside of the wilderness. Hell, you're not even promoting team pkers to pk more for greater loot, the armors cost more to use than you get out of PKing a set of them and certainly less loot than killing someone for the current standard gear. And on top of it all, you're adding more god damn power creep to PvP. Again, I ask, how long do you think this will go on before you 1) think you need to add even more power creep because of pressure from community for more updates and 2) have to start adding in soaking/HP boosting armors to combat each spike in dps.

This path leads to yet another ruined game. Stop.

10-Nov-2017 18:08:26

PANGPANGPANG

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I just read the new proposal for loot key scroll, and I hope the J mods behind this stupid idea get a slap on the head.

Why on earth would you make it only able to let you get 5 keys and then you have to buy/get another scroll. I understand you want to "keep the item in high demand" but that's just stupid. The ORIGINAL key proposal got 74% votes, and literally only failed due to chinese gold farmers/venezuelans voting no. Even with some pvmers/iron men/people skipping the question, the few thousand votes from the chinese/venezuelans who voted no were enough to make the poll not pass. There was nothing wrong with the original proposal, and with a 74% vote the damn thing should've passed. I bet if you grepped how many chinese/venezuelan IP's voted no it'd be 2000-3000+. And you're going to count those poll manipulation votes as legitimate?

Now you've gone and made something that was probably going to be the best update to pking in a long time and turned it into some cuck bullshit. Sure, the scroll will be massive expensive when it first comes out as with all new items, but even once it settles at a steady price, the damn thing would have to be incredibly cheap to even make it worth using unless you're high risking in deep wildy. These keys had the potential to solve all the looters in BH and bots at green dragons. If a pker in BH gets a kill it would be so nice for them to have the key that gets them all the food and potions on the ground which makes the kill actually decent instead of just a dds. Even if the scroll ends up being 100k-200k (and it will be much higher than that) it wouldn't be worth using. If I went to green dragons and got a kill that would normally be 100k, I can't use the keys because even at 100k x 5 kills the scroll is likely going to be more expensive or on-par with that.

The original keys should've passed and now you ruin them completely. Revs multi. Scroll high demand, low supply. Clans will run revs. Scroll 5m+ steady. Gj morons.

10-Nov-2017 18:16:29 - Last edited on 10-Nov-2017 18:28:41 by PANGPANGPANG

Mod Ayiza

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PANGPANGPANG said :
I just read the new proposal for loot key scroll, and I hope the J mods behind this stupid idea get a slap on the head.

The reason we do these posts in advance is to gather feedback before the poll goes live. It's quite clear a lot of people are against the restricted key use, which is something we'll look at.

10-Nov-2017 18:43:18

Kyy le
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The new loot keys proposed idea is just silly and whimsical. Revenant caves is going to be multi, and clans are going to run it. Yes it will be high risk high reward of course, but the loot key scroll is going to be a ridiculous price even when it's stable. It literally won't be worth using unless you're high risk pking. This poll got 74% with the original keys and was clearly manipulated desperately so it wouldn't pass. Think of something different, this was the worst thing you could do to keys.

Deserved to pass. So sad that all these iron men weeabs want their power ammies back because they can run back and loot them. Pathetic.

10-Nov-2017 18:46:15

sp1z
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Kyy le said :
The new loot keys proposed idea is just silly and whimsical. Revenant caves is going to be multi, and clans are going to run it. Yes it will be high risk high reward of course, but the loot key scroll is going to be a ridiculous price even when it's stable. It literally won't be worth using unless you're high risk pking. This poll got 74% with the original keys and was clearly manipulated desperately so it wouldn't pass. Think of something different, this was the worst thing you could do to keys.

Deserved to pass. So sad that all these iron men weeabs want their power ammies back because they can run back and loot them. Pathetic.

I agree. would have been the best thing for pkers and its such an unfortunate sight to see the poll getting so close and only failing due to blatant manipulation. sure everyone is entitled to their vote but we all know even with the pvmers and such who voted no the reason it fell 1% shy was bots and gold farmers which is ridiculous. it deserved to pass.

10-Nov-2017 18:51:00

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