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ABUSlVE

ABUSlVE

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DJ Nintendo said :
I honestly do not think void was the problem.

The serpentine helm is currently good, although i think now it can have its strength bonus back now.

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Here is the problem I have seen with void.

Void is not overpowered, its the ballistae hitting so high with the ability to throw another 1 tick spec into its stack.

Combine that with the ability to just sprinkle on a gmaul spec or dragon thrown axe spec on top of any high exp drop and this is where the over powered part comes in.

Your dragon claws special attack hits 38-19-10-9? sprinkle in a gmaul special for that KO.
Your dharok Axe hits a 70? Better rock out 2 maul specs to cement the KO.

Dark bow spec hits a 40-42? Better throw that dragon thrown axe for another quick 30 damage.

Ballistae hits a 70? You guessed it, gmaul or thrown axe.

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See where i am going with this?

Yea, hitting a 70 is alot, but being able to instantly throw another attack or 2 on it is where the problem is. You are right, like even melee can use DH with 300+ armor bonus, hit a 90, and then Gmaul up to 44 with each of the 2 specs. Even when a melee void ags pker uses an ags, they can spec a 82, and then instant maul 40+ damage right after in the same game tick.

26-May-2017 15:57:14 - Last edited on 26-May-2017 15:58:54 by ABUSlVE

Ezo Red Fox
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Ezo Red Fox

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Count Summon said :
While I am very happy with the update and changes which were recently made in favour of overall game balance, I was wondering what the reasoning is behind not asking for player input beforehand, for example stating that a nerf would be made but that players could suggest ways on how to do it and their reasoning behind it?
This way, better alternatives may be considered and perhaps both sides would understand each other better. Of course, there will always be people opposed to the changes, but I feel like the end result would be a lot better from the first try. One way to implement this system could be by using "beta worlds" such as the ones currently used for fight caves in cases like this.

An important part of the community is immature manchildren who would whine and throw a tantrum at the mere mention of nerfing their belowed overpowered moneymaker or nerfing a set that wasn't even intended at +20% to begin with, even though the nerf is very much needed in the name of balance (these players don't care about balance and game integrity though, they just care about the gp.)
Not to mention the ones who would rage and threaten to quit on their 3 accounts (even though we know they won't) just because Jagex doesn't go with /their/ idea.

It wouldn't have been very productive.

Instead, they do it themselves, very well needed (the community does not know what is best for the game and I'm very glad Jagex is stepping up)
Then people go make threads on reddit about it, the whiners don't gather much support 'cause their posts really don't contribute in any way, and you get the real gems of a post cropping up here and there. Those stand out and it's a lot easier to find them then.

Keep in ming that, sure, they "had" to go back afterwards to buff some things a little bit, but considering it was only a very sma increase to void + a fairly small change to serp helm, I'd aay they did a pretty good job on their own first time. I get moody during that time of the month. You know, with the full moon and all.

26-May-2017 16:01:38

Ezo Red Fox
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Ezo Red Fox

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ABUSlVE said :
Put void range at 15%, or buff some of its weapons. Reason: 10% reduction across the board is a big nerf.

"Because it's a big nerf" is hardly what I'd call a constructive argument against a nerf.
There is nothing inherently wrong with a big nerf if something needed/deserved the nerf.

Why do you believe that the nerf is too much?
Provide facts and number, an opinion isn't an argument. I get moody during that time of the month. You know, with the full moon and all.

26-May-2017 16:08:59

Stoner Morty
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Stoner Morty

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Leave it to Jagex to put out back to back updates because they forgot how to poll content. I figured you nerds would have learnt by now...Yah I said it, NERDS!

jk but seriously, as someone else said, we're not your guinea pigs, you can't just test these new changes on us and then see how we react and fix accordingly. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE!!!!???

26-May-2017 16:25:40

Rau

Rau

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DJ Nintendo said :
I honestly do not think void was the problem.

The serpentine helm is currently good, although i think now it can have its strength bonus back now.

____________________________________________

Here is the problem I have seen with void.

Void is not overpowered, its the ballistae hitting so high with the ability to throw another 1 tick spec into its stack.

Combine that with the ability to just sprinkle on a gmaul spec or dragon thrown axe spec on top of any high exp drop and this is where the over powered part comes in.

Your dragon claws special attack hits 38-19-10-9? sprinkle in a gmaul special for that KO.
Your dharok Axe hits a 70? Better rock out 2 maul specs to cement the KO.

Dark bow spec hits a 40-42? Better throw that dragon thrown axe for another quick 30 damage.

Ballistae hits a 70? You guessed it, gmaul or thrown axe.

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See where i am going with this?

Yea, hitting a 70 is alot, but being able to instantly throw another attack or 2 on it is where the problem is.

legit comment

26-May-2017 16:26:01

KEKW BYE

KEKW BYE

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Guys i honestly feel like Serpentine Visage needs to have a chance to poison players - i'm a defence tank and my sole purpose of creating this account which is currently ongoing is going to take hundreds of hours. I just feel like without Serp helm being able to venom then there is no more content to be made on defence pures. BRITISH AND PROUD - ASEXUAL ALSO!!

26-May-2017 16:43:14

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