RuneScape Forum Archive | Dev blog: Bots & F2P

Mar

2024

Np

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I am going to give every f2p player like 100k . No joke. GF BANK BUT F2P needs to stay

LOL our martyr

15-May-2014 16:19:03

RedmageAdam1

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With the auto typing thing, couldn't it just be set phrases similar to Quick Chat to prevent RWT'ers from using it to spam their sites? For instance:

"Buying [insert number] [item from search list] for [insert price] each! - [username]!"
Example: Buying 1,000 Yew Logs for 400gp each! - RedmageAdam1

"Selling [insert number] [item from search list] for [insert price] each! - [username]!"
Example: Selling 33,000 Iron Ore for 110gp each! - RedmageAdam1

As for the free to play thing, are you going to have any other changes other than disabling Yews, seeing as Lobsters, Iron Ore and Coal are also frequented by free to play bots? I remember in the day seeing about a dozen default level 3s making rounds to the Mining Guild on EVERY WORLD. Every Iron and Coal spot was botted out, Lumbridge Swamp Mine was IMPOSSIBLE to mine in and Musa Point had at least 10-15 Lobster bots per world.

The problem I could see with the above though is that it would give non-members almost no way to make money. What few methods would exist would be jumped on by bots, such as killing Cows, Moss Giants, Hill Giants, Hobgoblins, etc. This in turn would make the free players quit since they wouldn't be able to compete with the bots.

15-May-2014 16:20:25

OldWivesTale

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The problem with that is we'd have a large portion of our community which would be permanently muted. It seems that we need to react to what the community need and create a solution to the underlying issues rather than trying to caurterise the wound.

I understand the point you made, but I don't believe its fair to selectively ignore rules either. Perhaps 'let it slide' up to now, but make an announcement that anyone auto typing after June 1, will receive a mute of 7 days for a first offense, 30 days for a second offense, and a perm mute for a third. Then starting June 1 begin seriously enforcing the rule to clear up the spam. Or perhaps implement the auto typer deadline to coincide with a trading fix.

Creating an auto typer of your own will only increase spam in w1 and make the problem worse.

Sorry I have to clarify something. Not only in w1 will auto typing be worse. In every bank where we currently have a couple people spamming 'buying x items' that nobody has to sell them, will become 10x worse spam in every bank, not just w1. Then you won't be able to just 'stay out of w1' to avoid the spam, it'll be everywhere. That's why we can't implement a jagex auto typer.

Secondly, my point was made so the players who currently use auto typers because 'they have to' will see a solution is being implemented and will no longer need to use them, allowing jagex to mute people without having to worry about the majority of players getting muted.

15-May-2014 16:24:24

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15-May-2014 16:24:28

esmee 1997

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Against bots; just make a skill go slower after a while;
When you're power woodcutting just let the logs come in your inventory very slow if the only thing you do ingame is woodcutting.

Normal "noobs" won't train 1 skill for a long long time, they explore and do all kind of skills, so they won't even notice it.

15-May-2014 16:25:35

Mar

2023

Anger Alt

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This is fantastic news. I have always been an F2P player at heart, due to spending more time in F2P than members altogether

Thanks Jagex

15-May-2014 16:26:41

Oct

2005

Lewis Shoot

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Bots and hijacking: well done

So its 2 weeks were a new account can play.. or an account can activate 2 weeks in which they can play f2p?
Does that mean a new account on old school, or general new account?
- What about people who only did the free weekend in haloween
- What about people who started and quit when it first came out because they didnt want to pay for all the f2p things

Autotyper: will it be like quick chat, were we can say "buying shark" and filter things for "shark"? RIP Forums

Finally we have signatures in the surprise forum update. I'm Lewis, I play Old School & I've been playing since 2005.

15-May-2014 16:40:20

Motor Boats

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I don't think you guys realize that banning the bots is just killing the game even more.

What you need to understand is, and this is coming from myself- some of which is the leader of a MPC pure clan titled 'Hazard,' I can only bring kids back to this game via them training accounts fast. No one wants to slave away, considering your whole player base is primarily above 18 years old now, and very busy in real life.

You banning bots that aren't even gold farming is a tad bit ridiculous, I COMPLETELY understand banning bots that are goldfarming, however, and I do agree that that needs to be done.

I've had over 5 oldschool members interested in coming back for the clan, 4/5 of them were banned instantly for botting at rock crabs, some of which is not profitable at all, in any way. I mean, barely got 70 stats. I just don't think that it should matter how you train your account, if you bot it or legit it, it's only your pride.

I don't know, I get that botting is against the rules, but if you guys are worried about revenue you should understand that banning pures especially is just going to kill you off all the more.

As far as F2P is concerned:
Two weeks is too little.
I'd up it to three weeks.

If you want people buying membership, I'd suggest luring them all the more into the game. Two weeks will MAYBE get you a 70 stat if you're lucky at this point, and that won't keep kids interested what so ever. The economy is absolutely G-A-R-B-A-G-E now that bots are nearly completely gone, and no one can afford a damn thing. This game just isn't looking good right now. The community is also absolutely horrible, I believe you need to implement more player moderators as well to filter out some kids.

I also think that you need to bolster PKing. The wilderness is absolutely dead, and the game has returned to being a bunch of 14 year old kids who log in to chop magic logs.
The wildy update lasted 3 days and it was dead content.
CONTINUE TO ADVERTISE PLAYER VS PLAYER.

15-May-2014 16:43:28

Nov

2023

Canada

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Hey - I am really glad to hear this is being done! Finally, an attempt to increase the amount of players! A great idea that is much overdue, now all that's needed is a permanent* solution to the AI issue (which we have yet to see in fifteen years). I mean really I know several people that admit they used and continue to use bot clients since the beginning of OldSchool and are nearly maxed combat and have still not received any sort of punishment! Absolutely unacceptable and NEEDS to be stopped. Nice and tangled with the bots is the issue of RWT. Seriously this needs to stop it has been going on for too long! I'd say over half the community if not more are guilty of one perhaps both of the above. Until we have solved these issues, I don't believe the game is due for any more pointless updates.

15-May-2014 16:43:40

Bam Mergera

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I'm just going to say it straight out, this whole 2 week trail is just plain stupid. I don't see how people will come back to that. Let's make a new account play for two weeks get the feel for the game and then get slapped with having to pay. Lol.

15-May-2014 16:44:29