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Lil Rachel K
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People are asuming it will destroy the the social part of runescape?

It has nothing to do with social interaction. It's that we don't want to give merchers more power.

At the moment, if you want to merc*, you have to take time out of your day to actually sit there and type/trade people. That's fair enough, because they're exp wasting as they merc*. If trading could be done through the Trading Post, however, all merchers would have to do is update their buy/sell offers and then continue skilling as their offers complete automatically.

The more powerful the Trading Solution is, the more power merchers/merc* clans will have. Average players would be encouraged to try it as well, because it's so much easier to do with the help of a GE.
Market manipulation would eventually become a necessary practice in order to make decent money, as it has in RS3.
We don't want that to happen to OldSchool.

02-Jun-2014 21:21:58

Eldne

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I'm gonna be pretty honest, I don't find this good for the OSRS. Honestly, the OSRS is good as it is right now. Grand Exchange or somewhat like that (Trading post) will cut the player interaction and that's why this game is fun, because you have to interact with other players to get what you need. So, is this gonna stay OSRS or are we gonna turn this into a second EoC? Grand Exchange ruined the other game in all kinds of aspects, the prices came down so skillers find not-worth to get the resources as the prices are coming down like hell. Players start to get "cocky" (Sorry for the term, but it's the only one who actually adapts to the situation) and start to play by themselves what will reduce the fun of the game. Don't add that to the game otherwise the community will get worse again. And in 2007 I'm pretty sure this didn't exist, we didn't have this ease to get to the sellers. It's fine as it is, don't ruin it again please.

Regards, Hans. ^_^
Standing in a spot and adding to a sea of spam is not interacting with the community.

Many people barely have time to play. It's much better to have a quick way to sell and a quick way to buy what you need.

Btw,
the Grand Exchange was added
26 November 2007
. Just wanted to put that out there ;)

02-Jun-2014 21:31:12

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I'm gonna be pretty honest, I don't find this good for the OSRS. Honestly, the OSRS is good as it is right now. Grand Exchange or somewhat like that (Trading post) will cut the player interaction and that's why this game is fun, because you have to interact with other players to get what you need. So, is this gonna stay OSRS or are we gonna turn this into a second EoC? Grand Exchange ruined the other game in all kinds of aspects, the prices came down so skillers find not-worth to get the resources as the prices are coming down like hell. Players start to get "cocky" (Sorry for the term, but it's the only one who actually adapts to the situation) and start to play by themselves what will reduce the fun of the game. Don't add that to the game otherwise the community will get worse again. And in 2007 I'm pretty sure this didn't exist, we didn't have this ease to get to the sellers. It's fine as it is, don't ruin it again please.

Regards, Hans. ^_^
Standing in a spot and adding to a sea of spam is not interacting with the community.

Many people barely have time to play. It's much better to have a quick way to sell and a quick way to buy what you need.

Btw,
the Grand Exchange was added
26 November 2007
. Just wanted to put that out there ;)

It's called the Forums..?

02-Jun-2014 23:37:35

The Hax
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A few things that need to be considered as part of design:
There needs to be measures in place to combat market manipulation – Options for this? Buy/Sell limits (not a good fix imo)
There needs to be systems in place to ensure classic trading is still necessary – Limit on selling/buying can also be applied here, but we need something different****;
How will Unidentified Herbs be handled on the proposed solution / Potential to exclude items entirely from the proposed solution?

No Unidentified Herb sales allowed only clean herbs?

No sales of raw materials allowed? Eg Uncooked food, Ores, Grimy Herbs, Logs, Hides, Uncut gems? Etc.

This means that the solution would be in favour of skill orientated players, who would still be able to trade their stock the classic way, and all end life items (potions, weapons, armor, cooked food, etc etc would be tradable on the Auction House/GE.
This allows players to favour their non combat skills * As if you want to sell items on the AH/GE you’ll need to process it first (Allowing people who have higher levelled skills to be favoured, and also creates value for higher levelled skills)

This also combat real market manipulation in some way – Eg, if Cooked Lobsters were heavily merchanted, only the players who had the cooking level to create them would really favour – Giving people with higher skill levels value.

People will have easy access to end life/game items – Food, Pots, Gear, Weapons, etc – which is really all that matters – PVP/etc

And classic trading still flourishes – Meaning its harder to gain the materials needed to craft to gain levels (requires classic trading), but the levels themselves are more valuable when obtained.
Please take this stuff into consideration – And im sure this can be further refined (I wrote this in a 10min work break from my office. Also sorry about the grammar, however the ideas are still there.)

Haxx

02-Jun-2014 23:49:59 - Last edited on 02-Jun-2014 23:51:48 by The Hax

420 Rocha

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What I meant was, I liked and disliked GE. It affects the social part of the runescape, because you have to talk to players to get the prices and stuff done, so you socialize. Telling that isn't socializing isn't stupid**** makes people more "self-sustainable" I mean, they don't have to talk to anyone to have the things they need. I think that's one of the most important things in this game, the conversation between players. By the way, it was in late 07, almost 08. It seems like all you care about is getting the damn things you need without talking to nobody. My mission here is the same but as the time progresses I'd like to make some friends anyway.

02-Jun-2014 23:55:35

tidasf10
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tidasf10 Tell me how are you not voting selfish. Aren't you voting for what you want and not the majority wants. As it clearly shows according to the 20k votes that the majority voted yes. So maybe you are selfish. But look stop being a troll, and stop calling us selfish. Because we can call you selfish for voting for what you wanted. My point is. that is what voting is, you vote for what you want in hopes that the majority view what you view. That is a trade off of democracy but heck its the best thing we got - Ben Franklin.

lol like you said majority. I voted yes I want ge just like 71 % of others and clearly 71 % is majority . so what I gather in your earlier post is u against ge? or according to this post u are for ge? if u are for ge then I apologize for my comments. but if you are against ge then u are selfish because 71% is majority of wanting it.

03-Jun-2014 03:20:01

tidasf10
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but over all I could really care less about the game content as long as it does not keep getting easier skilling.

1. like sof
2. runespan
exc

my first main concern is summoning added as a skill in was in as of feb of 2008 just like ge was in nov of 2007.

03-Jun-2014 03:22:58

Waifu Mommy
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People are asuming it will destroy the the social part of runescape?

It has nothing to do with social interaction. It's that we don't want to give merchers more power.

At the moment, if you want to merc*, you have to take time out of your day to actually sit there and type/trade people. That's fair enough, because they're exp wasting as they merc*. If trading could be done through the Trading Post, however, all merchers would have to do is update their buy/sell offers and then continue skilling as their offers ***.........continued...

In no way is any of this correct.

In rs3 yes JAGEX has completely flopped the game on its ass but you can still make extremely decent profits doing rs3 bosses.
I went to queen black drag last week and got a duo split of an offhand drygore mace.

I made a significantly larger amount of cash more than I would have made buying up 3million earth talismans or 80 bcp's and sitting on them for a month on the "hope" that it goes through.

Just because you hear or see a mercher with bills doesn't mean he's pulled it out of the g.e in a short amount of time. As far as I would even know, most people just buy RSg* now because you could get 500m for little to no real life money at all, while this is bannable and a sad practice that is commonly used now a days, it does happen, a lot.

I could almost guarantee that unless there's some billionaires out there that can buy 100 ags's to thin out their appearance and quantity in the osrs market, and sit on them to flip them for 5-20mill more later on. It's basically impossible to really do some quality merching in osrs.

God forbid someone buys 300dharoks sets and they go up 50k each while the buyer is training strength.

In real life do stock traders have to go and meet someone to make a trade? No. They make a phone call and a wire transfer between accounts.

Rethink your ideals.

03-Jun-2014 03:49:25 - Last edited on 03-Jun-2014 03:52:39 by Waifu Mommy

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