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dunforgiven

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I'm gonna be pretty honest, I don't find this good for the OSRS. Honestly, the OSRS is good as it is right now. Grand Exchange or somewhat like that (Trading post) will cut the player interaction and that's why this game is fun, because you have to interact with other players to get what you need. So, is this gonna stay OSRS or are we gonna turn this into a second EoC? Grand Exchange ruined the other game in all kinds of aspects, the prices came down so skillers find not-worth to get the resources as the prices are coming down like hell. Players start to get "cocky" (Sorry for the term, but it's the only one who actually adapts to the situation) and start to play by themselves what will reduce the fun of the game. Don't add that to the game otherwise the community will get worse again. And in 2007 I'm pretty sure this didn't exist, we didn't have this ease to get to the sellers. It's fine as it is, don't ruin it again please.

Regards, Hans. ^_^
Standing in a spot and adding to a sea of spam is not interacting with the community.

Many people barely have time to play. It's much better to have a quick way to sell and a quick way to buy what you need.

Btw,
the Grand Exchange was added
26 November 2007
. Just wanted to put that out there ;)

It's called the Forums..?

forums are usually dead. the second page usually has stuff that was sold 3 days before frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
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03-Jun-2014 07:58:10

Gad Zook

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In fact, it is about the social part. It's also about the effect of that on the economy. Both sides keep pointing fingers at merching but missing the point.

In real life someone might buy your cigarette for a dollar, even if five dollars could buy a whole pack. That doesn't make you evil or money hungry. It's just how old-school merching works. In real life you might buy a "plank" from a store in Oregon for $3, or the same "plank" from a store in Arizona for $12. Prices change for convenience, based on things like the locations of the buyer and the resources.

Other prices change for volume. A $1 soda from a corner store or a $3 soda from the grocery store. A $5 bottle of medicine at the grocery store or a $15 bottle of medicine at the corner store. It's just whatever. Keep walking if you would rather find a better deal, or just buy if you can't afford to wait. That's how it's been in real life.

The same was always true in Runescape, until the end of 2007. Imposing "balanced trade" based on market prices really accelerated the process, but the GE was the machine that people could turn to for the best prices without having to deal with people who wanted fair prices . It was like having the entire economy available in one place, and so people stopped buying or selling things in other places. That was permanent damage. You can see it has affected trade here, even though we've never had a GE. Too many think VWest is the only place to buy or sell things.

The last thing I want to say is, what the hell does any of old-school have to do with stock market and instant wire transfers? This hardly applies to the concept of exchanging a wagon-full of goods or actual gold coins for some magic seeds and a hammered-out piece of metal headgear.

03-Jun-2014 08:09:45

dunforgiven

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There needs to be systems in place to ensure classic trading is still necessary

why? why would it be necessary to force people to do so?

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No Unidentified Herb sales allowed only clean herbs?

why? some people like to ''specialize'' in one herb or pot. any other herb they get they want to sell and use the money to buy other herbs. depending on the herb, unid's are cheap. IF you know how to do it, there is little to no chance of getting ripped off by them putting another type of herb up. everyone should know it.

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No sales of raw materials allowed? Eg Uncooked food, Ores, Grimy Herbs, Logs, Hides, Uncut gems? Etc.

what your saying is that you believe the gathers have no right to make money. there are some skills that require you to gain money else where. selling logs for instance can help to get bones for prayer. you have no right to decide that such and such a game plan is the only way to play the game.

basically, what your saying is that jagex should turn the game into merchantscape so you don't have to play the game to make money.

no, if you cant make money without ruining the trading post, you don't deserve to make money. frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
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03-Jun-2014 08:11:33

dunforgiven

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In fact, it is about the social part. It's also about the effect of that on the economy.


how is it about the social part? how much discussion do you have if you cant hear the other person talk? recently I tried to sell some pot in w vorack. I was unable to because I couldn't hear them tell me how many pots they wanted to buy. the chat was scrolling to fast for me to see what they wrote.

there is no social part of merchanting, safe for merchants bragging about how much they made. that is not something the vast majority cares about. frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
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03-Jun-2014 08:24:13

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the chat was scrolling to fast for me to see what they wrote..

If you switch to the trade tab and have autochat off you should easily be able to see what they wrote, that's a pretty poor excuse. And I'm a supporter of automated trading.

03-Jun-2014 08:44:33

Saxxy Jack

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Can i make a suggestion?

As many F2P players are starting to use bots such as PowerBot, which is starting to develop bots of OSRS, it may be wise to have this trading post exclusive for P2P players, also this will increase the members in old school Runescape, as many people i have spoken to say RS was at its best in Rs2 when Jagex introduced the GE. :)

Any response welcome :)

03-Jun-2014 13:37:39

Gad Zook

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los doom, that's part of the permanent damage I was talking about. Before 08 varrock west would be a great place to sell bars for smithing or feathers, or buy river fish from barbarian village. It wasn't the center of all trade. Food and pots would sell better in edgy. Also, people who gather or craft common items would do so by the thousand so the math is easy and less time spent selling. When u add someone who's working on getting supplies to sell and let them know you're buying when they have a lot, that's old-school and you can carry on with what you're working on in the meantime. Wanting to trade something instantly with no planning by piecing together a bunch of partial offers by undedicated noobs is a by-product of the GE. Now I know that probably doesn't apply directly to the pots you were trying to sell but I hope it gives some understanding of the social aspect.

03-Jun-2014 15:46:57

Comfort Zone

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What a lot of you people cannot seem to get through your thick skulls is that if you want the "oh so marvelous joy of trading face-to-face", you can still do it with other people who get the same pleasure as you. Why do those who don't want to spend 3 hours buying 1 item have to go down with you?

Also, looking back at 07, you did not give a rat's ass about this "thrill of trading face-to-face" and most of you loved the G.E. Question 4 has to pass, as well as offline trading. Otherwise, this is just Zyb in game.

03-Jun-2014 16:35:26

Viralized

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Personally, as someone who has played runescape on over 100+ level 50+ characters over a 10+ year span, I think the way it is now is more amazing than ever. Because there are alot less players and there is no grand exchange. I've actually found myself skilling alot more in order to craft my own materials for quests. Which is a part of the game I never really got to enjoy until now. Ussualy it was always, "Start quest, check requirements, walk to G.E., buy all items above price for quicker access, complete quest". Since being back in 07scape I've actually found myself having to prep. for quests. Going and gathering materials and things before hand. I love that aspect of the game.

Also, I've made plenty of new friends through simple trades via the bank. I think it's the more unsocial people or "grouped players". Players that already have a group of "friends" that they play with tend to be anti-social around players they don't know. As for me, I'm a solo-player, so I make alot of friends on the game. Not just for the sake of being friends, but I'll try to make friends with people who have certain skills higher then me so if I need something I can go to them for help.

I'm glad 07scape is the way it is, and I hope it stays this way. I think the trade system is perfect and doesn't need to change*

toolong;dr : The current trade system brings light to aspects of the game I wish I had noticed when I first started playing 10 years ago. I hope it continues to stay the same so other players can enjoy the same light.

Thanks for reading, Viral

03-Jun-2014 16:36:39 - Last edited on 03-Jun-2014 16:37:50 by Viralized

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