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meddy42

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Like a s'nail helmet. You can't just go to W1 Vwest and find people selling that, and not really on ***** either.

You can go to the swamp and kill a snail. Use a chisel to make the shell into a helm.

I realize that's not your point, but it is my point. Every item comes from somewhere. I got my first barb-tail harpoon by going to Feldip Hills. I found someone hunting nearby and gave him the log and knife needed and he was happy to catch one for me.

As it was in 2006, the best thing you can give noobs is information. You can also help them out a bit if that's your thing. Or you might be a noob, either you beg for an item or try to buy it for too much, or ask if anyone knows how you can get it yourself. This is the community/social aspect of old-school that we want preserved; it really has nothing to do with pricing or the GE, it's just that the GE killed it just like WalMart killed the local hardware store. Sure it still exists, like people keep saying YOU CAN STILL TRADE THE OLD WAY IF YOU WANT TO ya but still dead content when 99% of your audience will just shop at the GE.

I agree in a way. That is what I have been doing (going and getting odd things myself). However it is rather inconvenient. I'm looking at the trading system to be more of a convenience to the game; it will help expedite the whole game play. Such as bank tabs, and adding the data orbs.

There have been several times I have not been able to do something in runescape because I can't find someone who is selling an item. Like a couple weeks ago, I couldn't find anyone selling blessed d'hide for Fight Caves. So I just had to wait until someone was selling said item when I could have been killing jad. It is just aggravating when I can't proceed with something in Runescape because no one is selling an item I need.

Not everyone can max their account and get items that need higher levels.

29-May-2014 17:39:29

Micky de 1st

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I'd like something like an auction house that was independent of each world. That way we still keep the "trade worlds" populated, or even an auction house in only the trade worlds. I actually enjoy playing on the more populated worlds, especially when I'm fishing, woodcutting, etc. because it feels more like a community. The Grand Exchange kind of ruined that because it dispersed the population and ended the need to communicate with people for items. Every bank in the game was quiet except for the GE because there was no reason to trade at them anymore. It made the game feel empty, and I would really like to avoid that with the new trading post system.

Not to mention getting small items for quests and clues is part of the game. Without the GE, those small items were worth a couple of thousand gold to someone truly desperate or to lazy to go get such item. The GE sets a gap between cheap items and expensive items. For example, I could sell an addy woodcutting axe for 8k in Draynor bank. If this were in a GE game, that person would just go to the GE and buy one for 1k.

I really wish they added a poll option such as "should the trading post be connected throughout all the worlds?"

29-May-2014 18:14:22

twiztedkill

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The first week of this game was so fun for me. No one had anything, there was no economy, no gold, no armor and no one selling anything. Also, no way to tele, no tabs and not much run energy and no pots. We walked alot. No one had the items to do quests.
If was gonna end up this way, why didnt jagex start with all 99s, give everyone the best equipment and armor and then you could go do what you wanted. How you wanted to play the game.
Why? because that's not the nature of the game.
We old timers mined, wc, killed goblins for levels, runecrafted, not using abyss (cuz you died in there), and did what quests we needed to get the items. Just so i could try and kill light foot at lvl 30 lol. So I could get to tree spirits and kill them with my trusty willow bow to get rune axes.Was gonna be a long time til someone could make them. So I could sell them to all the post-ge players who said "no one has a f-ing rune axe" "give me a break" "someone sell me a rune axe".
So again, I say old school is dying, i guess there aren't enough older players left to win the majority. I will wait to see if this passes but i am going too. Runescape is a dying game and Jagex is desperate.
Jagex, you might as well give them their 99s and armor and let them play as they wish. They still won't be happy. So, maybe add one respawn with all clue scroll items and quest items in one spot.

29-May-2014 18:32:50

Crew69

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The first week of this game was so fun for me. No one had anything, there was no economy, no gold, no armor and no one selling anything. Also, no way to tele, no tabs and not much run energy and no pots. We walked alot. No one had the items to do quests.
If was gonna end up this way, why didnt jagex start with all 99s, give everyone the best equipment and armor and then you could go do what you wanted. How you wanted to play the game.
Why? because that's not the nature of the game.
We old timers mined, wc, killed goblins for levels, runecrafted, not using abyss (cuz you died in there), and did what quests we needed to get the items. Just so i could try and kill light foot at lvl 30 lol. So I could get to tree spirits and kill them with my trusty willow bow to get rune axes.Was gonna be a long time til someone could make them. So I could sell them to all the post-ge players who said "no one has a f-ing rune axe" "give me a break" "someone sell me a rune axe".
So again, I say old school is dying, i guess there aren't enough older players left to win the majority. I will wait to see if this passes but i am going too. Runescape is a dying game and Jagex is desperate.
Jagex, you might as well give them their 99s and armor and let them play as they wish. They still won't be happy. So, maybe add one respawn with all clue scroll items and quest items in one spot.

Completely agree. Adding in an AH or GE takes out some of the rarity of the game. You should be able to just go to one place and get every item you need for a quest. Part of the quest is collecting the items that you need from different places or different people. The real issue is this new generation of runescapers who want instant gratification. The "old-school player" sees the value in collecting items for a quest or spending some time trying to find the right offer to buy something. The "new-school player" only sees value in the end result not the process.

29-May-2014 18:50:25

Tankk

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Well that was a flop... only 72% voted for it to not need the current broken trading system... Effectively this update is now useless... There is already a freaking trading post its called varrock. If you still have to trade with the current system then effectively nothing changes......

29-May-2014 19:50:03

EncoreShot

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28% are wise enough.

29-May-2014 19:59:18

Crew69

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What most people fail to realize is that the trading system is not broken. It takes more than 2 minutes to get an item you need? Too bad...that is how it should be. There is no point in playing the game if everything is handed to you right when you need it. Just got 70 attack? A whip should pop into your inventory right? This may sound ridiculous but in reality its what you guys ask for. Maybe not directly but essentially its the idea of instant gratification. Runescape started to die long before EOC. It all started with the killing of free trade and the wilderness and bottling it all into the GE. Do not repeat this same mistake please.

29-May-2014 20:04:56

Gunter7

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G.E. was one of the 3 reasons people left the game. I'm not a merchanter, but from what i saw in the past implementing such a thing ruin the economy badly. I understand there are 2 group of oldschool player the 2007 and the pre eoc and sadly not everyone can be happy, but this is huge and should not pass. Before people had location in trading world where they could get there stuff like east of fally bank for herb, in falador garden for barrow... why not just put skill symbole on the ground in trading world so player know where to go to buy/sell there stuff.

29-May-2014 20:16:29 - Last edited on 29-May-2014 20:17:45 by Gunter7

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Zadok

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I agree with a trading post - I think there needs to be some kind of interface that we can use to buy and sell items rather than sifting through the thousands of people selling things in the banks.

However, I don't think it should be as easy as the Grand Exchange was. Price manipulation was out of control with the Grand Exchange - I think it would be best if there was a buying/selling post in every major city center (Varrock, Falador, Ardougne, Draynor, Canfis, etc.). The trading post would be a place where you can post buying/selling offers ONLY WHILE YOU'RE ONLINE.

If you're going to make it easier for us to trade, create some kind of fail safe for price manipulation. I would be more willing to train a skill for a couple hours and wait for my trade to go through if I *had to be online for it to trade* rather than log off and know that it'll probably be bought/sold by the next time I log in.

I think by implementing this you will see:
1) Happier players due to the easier trading system
2) Players being more active on the game due to having to wait for their trades
3) Reduction in price gouging of certain items

29-May-2014 20:48:48

Probity

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To be quite honest, I would rather NOT see a system like the Grand Exchange. (Many would probably agree)

It became a little less social in the sense that no one even bothered talking to one another anymore and all we really did was farm, go sell the items at GE, and repeat the process. Yes it was more convenient but at the same time it ruined the game (in my opinion) .

I like having to add people who wanted to buy Cowhides, or Prayer Potions and repeatedly PMing them when I had any in-stock and having a decent variety of customers who want to buy certain things from me.

I am not a mercher, I am more so a melee player who likes working on ATT/Str/DEF.

I would honestly prefer a system like *ybez with a little bit more management (such as offers getting removed after a certain amount of time) and something similar. It makes it alot easier to find things yet doesn't take away from being social with one another.

29-May-2014 21:10:38

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