RuneScape Forum Archive | Dev blog: Trading Solution V2

Murphy_Lee50

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Do you know why Oldschool has a better economy? PEOPLE TRADE PEOPLE!
you dont trade a machine aka the GE like Rs3 or "eoc" you trade a real person.

Keep it PEOPLE TRADE PEOPLE@@!#@!!>

Make Oldschool easier just to be easier and it will kill the game.
in the REAL OLDSCHOOL.

PEOPLE TRADED PEOPLE. NOT A MACHINE

28-May-2014 06:33:31

Ray Galdier

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It's not the real oldschool, and that's the misconception everyone has. Runescape 2007 was a gig for Jagex to throw at it's player base as a "fine you want this so bad? Try this see how you like it."

That's why there's such a small monitoring team. They weren't ready for the massive support that their player-base put forth into 07, and now they are trying to make it better to gain more players. Everything is based on income, and the fact that 07 is generating so much of it requires that Jagex put a heavier focus on it.

And because they have given the "power to the players" the majority wants a better trading system. You can yell all you want about keeping it player trading, but the bottom line is the players want, and honestly there needs to be, a better trading system introduced to the game.

People like luxury and easy, so giving a small dose of both to the game (only in moderation, as with everything else in life) will hopefully grasp many more and generate more income. Because without it, no matter how many of you disagree with me or not, no money means no Jagex, and no Jagex means no Runescape. So you choose which one of those options you want. Me, I'm for the updated system, and honestly I hope most of you all are too.

28-May-2014 06:43:56 - Last edited on 28-May-2014 06:46:28 by Ray Galdier

Kurama

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Doubtful....Too many people still claim that this is "OLD SCHOOL" and therefore doesn't deserve updates of any kind.

I've given up on the ignorant masses, I wish Jagex would just start doing what's best for business and only consult the players on major updates like a combat change, new skills, etc.

28-May-2014 06:55:15

Ray Galdier

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Well when they did that it led to the EoC, which was THE biggest failure ever endured by Jagex, and right behind that was banning gambling. The fact that they are trying to incorporate the players into game decisions is n their part a good move, but the problem is a lot of the people playing this game are under the age of 18 and don't wholely understand economics, marketing and business, both in-game and out.

The point of the new trading system is to make getting supplies less stressful for players who are intent on actually playing the game, but who's to say merchanting isn't playing the game either, just in a different direction? I'm also playing Star Wars the Old Republic, and I just used the Cartel Exchange for the first time on my main character. I bought some nice gear for my level, and I did so with the 200k credits I'd obtained from questing. So I got a nice sum from just playing...

In essence, the main idea is to get people to JOIN the game first, have fun and keep coming back to play, then decide they want to try a bit more and experience being a member. Once they like that part of the game they continue to return and pay, generating revenue for Jagex. After a while these players become regulars, and should have a decision on matters pertaining to how they play.

I read an earlier post about merchants being destroyed or empowered... The guy contradicted himself and was quite rude. One, I don't want a person calling another player a "simpleton" for expressing his idea contributing to decisions about the game I play and Two, merchanting is a choice made by people who want to spend their time making money on this game. Some succeed, some don't.

Everything about the game, everything a player does, is based on what he/she decides is fun and continues to pursue. Jagex's job is to make sure that player is able to do what he/she likes. The trading update would be a tremendous improvement for both merchants and skillers alike

28-May-2014 07:07:59 - Last edited on 28-May-2014 07:09:54 by Ray Galdier

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2014

Sanotsuto

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Doubtful....Too many people still claim that this is "OLD SCHOOL" and therefore doesn't deserve updates of any kind.
Luckily, this is a loud minority. You must remember, most of the game's population does not even use the forums, and not even everyone on the forums thinks this way. Hopefully enough players have enough common sense to get most of these questions through.

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I've given up on the ignorant masses, I wish Jagex would just start doing what's best for business and only consult the players on major updates like a combat change, new skills, etc.
I cannot agree with this because who says what a major update is? Well, EoC isn't a major update, let's just implement it! "Major" is subjective, and removing polls is a slippery slope.

28-May-2014 07:10:06

Kurama

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I agree. We have the advantage of hindsight so I doubt Jagex would make any blunders that were quite on the level of removing wildy, free trade, etc. The very people you refer to with no sense of business, marketing, economics, and things like that are the very reason I'm about 5 seconds from quitting OSRS because they make very weak claims against having something GE related or anything new for that fact other than the whole vet rhetoric.

28-May-2014 07:13:17

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2022

Muaddeeb

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the grand exchange didnt ruin anything!! the evoultion of combat is what ruined everything!!! ive played runescape since 2004 and in 2008 and 2009 and 2010 there was always more than 100k people playing all the time and even more in the evenings and weekends!! ill stop my rant tho guys sorry

Truer words have never been spoken.

I too started my first account in 2004, just missing the cutoff for creating a R/S Classic account. I was a very regular player (maybe too regular) all the way up to EOC. EOC is what killed the game for me, and I stopped playing altogether. I found OSRS by accident simply by checking into what was new on the RS website.

The GE was good for RS2, keeping scammers at bay, giving merchants 24 hour access to buyers, giving buyers access to supplies or gear when they need them without having to wade through an overwhelming amount of spammers all jammed into small areas of Fally, and gave market stability to nearly all tradeable items. And through all this, those that simply wanted to merchant still were able to do that. They simply had another venue to sell their goods, but still congregated in vast numbers on W2 in the Varrock GE to hawk their wares.

The majority of people who don't want the GE simply want to have more control of markets, and want to control prices so each sale nets them maximum profit. The concept of a marketplace is good for nearly everyone except market manipulators (and even then, the merchant clans still affected GE pricing by controlling flow of goods).

To those that say the game is all about collecting, grinding, and suffering through all the eons of tedium to get the necessary resources, I say balderdash. If the game is about such things, why does it have career merchants? Why is it ok to buy 10K ranarrs from a player in V-West on W1, but not buy the same thing at a Market Exchange like the GE?

Bring back the GE, or something very similar.

28-May-2014 07:54:02

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2022

Muaddeeb

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Do you know why Oldschool has a better economy? PEOPLE TRADE PEOPLE!
you dont trade a machine aka the GE like Rs3 or "eoc" you trade a real person.

Keep it PEOPLE TRADE PEOPLE@@!#@!!>

Make Oldschool easier just to be easier and it will kill the game.
in the REAL OLDSCHOOL.

PEOPLE TRADED PEOPLE. NOT A MACHINE

I respect your opinions Murphy, but with the GE, it was people trading people. The GE was nothing more than a place to post your goods for sale, or to post up an offer to buy something. If you posted an offer, and there wasn't another "person" offering that item for sale, it didn't matter how much you offered, you weren't getting it until someone did put it up for sale. The GE maintained market economics by ensuring that prices were supply/demand driven.

28-May-2014 08:05:57