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So if we want to make a non-combat Slayer version, which is what Artisan basically is, then we should look what makes Slayer so successful and translate that to non-combat content.
What makes Slayer a popular skill?
- Depending on your level you can kill monsters that others can't
- You can train it using all combat skills at any time that you wish
- Rewards can be sold for money
- You often find clue scrolls
- It involves some traveling (you train at different places)
- You can buy specific options with Slayer points that make Slayer more pleasant.
How can these points be translated to non-combat content?
- Depending on your Artisan level you can gather and produce items that others can't make
- You can select which skill(s) you want to focus your tasks on (maybe you should select 3 skills and then you have 90% chance your task will be from one of those skills and 10% chance it will be a random other skill)
- At least some of the rewards should be tradable (myself I would like the unique content to be untradeable, but at least you can sell the regular items that you make on a task)
- There should be a (small) chance to find a clue scroll while on an Artisan task
- Rather than that a task should say make X of Y, it could say make X of Y at place Z, or use the anvile/furnace/whatever in place Z to make X of Y, or mine X of Y in the Z region.
- With Artisan points you can buy options (like block a skill or boost the chance to get a skill) that make training Artisan more pleasant.
These are just reasons that I think make Slayer attractive, if I forgot something, feel free to add
-Slayer doesn't give a X% damage boost, and I don't think it makes any sense if Artisan does..
-Slayer also typically isn't the fastest way to train a combat skill, but you do more damage with black mask, perhaps Artisan should work the same.
-Also you only get 1/4th of the combat XP as Slayer XP, I feel it should be the same for Artisan.
What makes Slayer a popular skill?
- Depending on your level you can kill monsters that others can't
- You can train it using all combat skills at any time that you wish
- Rewards can be sold for money
- You often find clue scrolls
- It involves some traveling (you train at different places)
- You can buy specific options with Slayer points that make Slayer more pleasant.
How can these points be translated to non-combat content?
- Depending on your Artisan level you can gather and produce items that others can't make
- You can select which skill(s) you want to focus your tasks on (maybe you should select 3 skills and then you have 90% chance your task will be from one of those skills and 10% chance it will be a random other skill)
- At least some of the rewards should be tradable (myself I would like the unique content to be untradeable, but at least you can sell the regular items that you make on a task)
- There should be a (small) chance to find a clue scroll while on an Artisan task
- Rather than that a task should say make X of Y, it could say make X of Y at place Z, or use the anvile/furnace/whatever in place Z to make X of Y, or mine X of Y in the Z region.
- With Artisan points you can buy options (like block a skill or boost the chance to get a skill) that make training Artisan more pleasant.
These are just reasons that I think make Slayer attractive, if I forgot something, feel free to add
-Slayer doesn't give a X% damage boost, and I don't think it makes any sense if Artisan does..
-Slayer also typically isn't the fastest way to train a combat skill, but you do more damage with black mask, perhaps Artisan should work the same.
-Also you only get 1/4th of the combat XP as Slayer XP, I feel it should be the same for Artisan.
13-Jun-2014 18:58:55 - Last edited on 13-Jun-2014 19:05:45 by WhoCareZz
I'm usually quite the naysayer when it comes to new updates, but this time that's not the case. I actually like the concept of this skill. It is sort of similar to Slayer in a way, just using skills instead of combat. I am however not entirely convinced, Mat. I think there are 2 things that need to be reworked: the way the rewards affect other parts of the game and the way the skill is trained.
So many rewards affect other skills or other gameplay, and some of them are obviously OP. I realise this is needed to make it more interesting and worthwhile to train the skill. I have nothing against that, but please just be a bit more careful when balancing these things. IMO it would be perfect if none of the rewards directly improve other exp rates. For example if a reward doubles the exp rate for skill A then I think you need to do atleast 1.5hr of Artisan to use that reward for 1 hour. So to train skill A you now have to option to spend 1 hr on training skill A or training Artisan for 1.5hr and then spending half an hour training skill A. So in terms of time spent it would still be better to only train skill A but players who prefer Artisan over skill A have the option to spend a bit more time and doing the things they prefer. I may be a bit off with my numbers (I'm slaying while I type this) but you get the idea.
Second problem is the way Artisan is trained. I think it would be slightly better if it had more of an ironman feeling to it. I'm afraid that for most tasks (except for farming tasks) it would be a buyable and then this skill would become one big boring (and probably expensive) grind. Of course I don't know exactly what tasks you had in mind, but from the things I've read I'd expect it to be like this.
I'd say I'm 70% convinced and I'm looking forward to possible solutions you have to offer
.
Edit: Also I completely agree with what the player above me posted.
So many rewards affect other skills or other gameplay, and some of them are obviously OP. I realise this is needed to make it more interesting and worthwhile to train the skill. I have nothing against that, but please just be a bit more careful when balancing these things. IMO it would be perfect if none of the rewards directly improve other exp rates. For example if a reward doubles the exp rate for skill A then I think you need to do atleast 1.5hr of Artisan to use that reward for 1 hour. So to train skill A you now have to option to spend 1 hr on training skill A or training Artisan for 1.5hr and then spending half an hour training skill A. So in terms of time spent it would still be better to only train skill A but players who prefer Artisan over skill A have the option to spend a bit more time and doing the things they prefer. I may be a bit off with my numbers (I'm slaying while I type this) but you get the idea.
Second problem is the way Artisan is trained. I think it would be slightly better if it had more of an ironman feeling to it. I'm afraid that for most tasks (except for farming tasks) it would be a buyable and then this skill would become one big boring (and probably expensive) grind. Of course I don't know exactly what tasks you had in mind, but from the things I've read I'd expect it to be like this.
I'd say I'm 70% convinced and I'm looking forward to possible solutions you have to offer
.
Edit: Also I completely agree with what the player above me posted.
13-Jun-2014 19:08:54 - Last edited on 13-Jun-2014 19:10:12 by Fireworm999
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