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Dexterity

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I personally feel as though this is going to ruin what OSRS is suppose to replicate. What '07 Scape' was supposed to be has already been destroyed. This is basically a new non skill/completely based dungeoneering. I dislike almost all aspects of this. This could be the straw that broke the camels back to destroy the already very edged small sliver of decent PvP thats left. The only way this could even somewhat be acceptable in my opinion, is if you were to have to have something already to earn said reward from a raid. Like for the mall you must have a bludgeon, and the wand already have a master wand. This will be just the same as chaotics where all it takes is a bit of no lifing, to be the most op person with no risk in PvP. Making people's 100m+ risks to gain the advantage they have completely purposeless. What happened to creating a money sink? This is just ruining peoples will to keep working towards earning money. Thats not a money sink, thats killing a desire to enjoy a game.

15-Jul-2016 13:20:02

Ferocire

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Simplex said :
So if I were to think again, it is obvious that, a knowledgeable mage like yourself, thinks magic is not underpowered. So, why should magic receive any buffs at all? Don't contradict yourself, it's messy.

We don't need buffs. What we need is variety. This offers none of that. It isn't even as advertised. It was implied it would be a GWD equivalent yet now it's suddenly a..upgraded infinity?

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To answer your question, these robes are impressive to anyone planning to use magic. The magic attack is only +11 but for the magic skill that is quite an upgrade, seeing that decent gear with a magic bonus of +122 costs about 6m. The best magic bonus a player can have is +156, so this leaves +34 magic bonus to be obtained. That +34 magic bonus will cost somebody 162m worth of gear at current prices. At that rate, the Kodai bonus of +11 can be valued at 52m with the magic bonus alone. Pair this magic bonus with one of the best prayer bonuses for robes in-game and yes, you have a very impressive magic robe set. So if you don't want the Kodai robes, Imperium, hand them to me.

So you're impressed by a gp value. What matters is the actual difference something can make in combat. This makes very little. Its trivial barely noticeable accuracy difference (If you would actually do the math, you'd see it's not that much of a upgrade at all..)is not worth the loss of defenses at all. In it's current state, it only has one real use: Speed kills of Zulrah.
OSRS Mage Tank.


Believe magic to only be for support? Think again. It's just as valid of a Pking style as melee and range is.

15-Jul-2016 14:00:09 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2016 14:08:56 by Ferocire

Legolas
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Legolas

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It's always amusing seeing Imperium make points. Such thought out arguments, and most people reply back with nonsense, lol.

If you don't mind, I'd like add you in game. I have a ranged tank I'm very deep into making and have a few questions about your magic tanking, seeing as those accounts can be used interchangeably. Nope.

15-Jul-2016 14:05:45

TzTok-HugCok
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TzTok-HugCok

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THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO BALANCING THE GAME YET STILL BEING ABLE TO GROW THE GAME........

JUST BLOCK CERTAIN ITEMS FROM PVP WORLDS AND WILDERNESS!!!!

MAKE NEW WEAPONRY / GEAR AND MAKE IT ONLY USABLE OUTSIDE OF PVP SITUATIONS!!!

THEN YOU CAN DO WHATEVER THE F YOU WANT AND NOT WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE MOANING AT YOU FOR RUINING PVP.

SIMPLE.............

DRAGON WEAPONRY AND ARMOUR SHOULD NOT COME FROM RAIDS DRAGON MATERIAL IS OLD AND SHOULD BE PUT FOUND IN OLD PARTS OF THE GAME, KING BLACK DRAGON COULD DROP THE PLATEBODY OR THE SWORD OR EVEN THE DUST DEVIL BOSS.

KODAI robes are completely useless BUFF THEM BY +30 MORE MAGIC ATTACK AND GIVE IT DEFENSES, REMOVE THE PRAYER BONUS AND GIVE IT NEGATIVE PRAYER BONUS, AND POLL IT TO BE DISCLUDED FROM PVP. OR GIVE THEM THE ABILITY OF 75% CHANCE OF SAVING ALL BLOOD RUNES PER CAST.

Some random ideas below! :D

*LIFE STEAL - Works like soulsplit in a fashion, damage inflicted restoring player health without working as a smite aswell. Could be obtained through a scroll giving you the power to imbue and change the look of a piece of armour or weapon to grant the user lifestealing powers. *CAN BE POLLED TO ALLOW INTO PVP OR HAVE IT SOLELY FOR OUTSIDE OF PVP*

*MAKE ABBYSAL DAGGER SPECIAL HAVE +100% INCRASED ACCURACY RATHER THAN 25%. WOULD MAKE UP FOR THE LACK OF DAMAGE IT CAN INFLICT COMPARED TO A DDS. ITS A SHAME TO SEE THE ABBYSAL SIRE GO TO WASTE ITS A GREAT PEICE OF CONTENT MECHANICALLY AND ARTISTICLY YET IT HAS BEEN LET DOWN BY THE BLUNGEON AND THE DAGGER.

*BLUNGEON SPECIAL ATTACK TO HAVE A BLEED EFFECT SIMILAR TO MORRIGANS JAVELINS HAD AND A 100% CHANCE OF INFLINCTING POISON THAT HAS 12 POINTS DAMAGE.

*ABBYSAL STAFF - 1/2K CHANCE TO RECIEVE IT - 5% MORE DAMAGE THAN A SOT* +10 MORE ATTACK. I BELIEVE SOT* AND ABBYSAL STAFF SHOULD HAVE ATTACK SPEED LOWER TO GODSWORD SPEED YET SOT* SHOULD KEEP ITS MELLE STATS AND ABBYSAL STAFF SHOULD HAVE +10 MORE STRENGTH THAN THE SOT*

15-Jul-2016 19:08:10

Sir Beard
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Sir Beard

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kodai robes are not viable no apparent stats that will keep them at a high tier price
other then rarity and magic dmg boost ? they will plumit to less then ahrims after a few are in circulation.

elder wand ( although the name "elder" is quite over used i'd suggest something better for the release ex: "wand of suffering" ( kinda goes along w/ the zenyte jewlery huh?)

maul sounds like fun but it sounds too much like rs3 this is something i think most of the community will vote no towards
i think originality should be key not trying to copy caotic maul.

let's try to stray away from a crush weapon seeing as how there are so many in game currently

suggestion "Arceaic gauntlet" would replace (barrows gloves for a new best in slot glove
in addition doubles as an offensive weapon these goves would increase the rate of barehand combat
adds a completely new element and original aspect to the game

new combat attack styles jab (accurate) attack, smash (a strong but slow hit) strength, guarded, defence (while guarded would deal less damage) it would have an opponent deal less damage

dragon sword

the first ability
would ruin pvp blatently it's a pj weapon like korasi in rs3 i am utterly against the special attack negating prayer
the second ability i am perfectly fine with

alternative: if an opponent is protecting from melee, the dragon sword will absorb 25% of your opponents prayer but will lose the accuracy bonus and dmg boost

prayers,

lvl 55 preserve is excellent

lvl 65 poison absorb conflicts with chivalry base level change to 68 and is a useless ability (we have anti-venoms) ect. also as a one time scroll no one will chose these or very little

*alternative lvl 68 vanquish, while vanquish is active you deal bonus damage to creatures of the same type you have killed previously (vanquish must be on)
while killing/defeating the npc you are killing ( bonus dmg is a 2.5% increase in damage to a monster you have already killed of the

15-Jul-2016 22:05:20

Sir Beard
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Sir Beard

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of the same type)
this effect would be negated upon attacking any new monster the effect only stacks once and will be negated if out of combat for more then 1 minute.

lvl 74 augury lowered to level 72

lvl 75 divine grace devalues the economy on staminas, and essentially players could run for ever ex ( full graceful, prayer pots) while useful in certain situations
I feel that this is not a viable solution for a prayer tierd at level 75.

*alternative lvl 75 suffering while suffering is active it has a small chance 5-10% to steal 3 points of an opponents health

lvl 77 rigour needs to be bumped up to 78*

lvl 85 venom absorb this is utterly terrible the same problem as poison absorb,

lvl 85 alternative torture while torture is active it has a 5-10% chance to steal 2 prayer points and 5 points of an opponents health

*suffering and torture cannot be active at the same time*

15-Jul-2016 22:07:39

Hyper Craft

Hyper Craft

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LOVE Dragon Platebody reward

HATE how new mage robes aren't equal level requirements as Bandos and Armadyl, as that would fit that tier and there isn't a magic robe set with offensive stats that does at this point.

I DOUBLE HATE that you need not only 75 magic, but 75 prayer (Ridiculous) to use these robes. If anything, the prayer requirement needs to be changed to defense similar to Ahrims.

ANOTHER 2 hand melee weapon. How original and grand. We already have Godswords, don't conflict with them unless you plan on raising it to T80.

Come Jagex use your head and stop being lazy!

Oh... also think the wand is a copy and paste stats wise and waste of an award. Get a Range Weapon in there for once!

15-Jul-2016 23:13:12 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2016 23:14:45 by Hyper Craft

Zelda64rules

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I hate upgradables and think they are a terrible idea. I beg you: Let us assemble a Dragon Platebody from those items alone. Or at the very least DON'T CONSUME D CHAINS in the process. Aren't chains supposed to be better than plates in same tier, but in a different way?
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