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Trebor

Trebor

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Its breaking said:
Lol, Because the reverse is a better option? Try massing another maxed player, or train your stats to offset the crash then. Why should stats give way to how many you have in the CC. LOL.

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You missed the point completely : That is why there would be coinshare worlds so by sticking to these types of worlds groups of lower levels and maxed solo can avoid crashing each other.

So its not as you say the reverse its actually middle ground and the best option possible.

09-Mar-2016 02:53:27

D avey

D avey

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I voted yes for lootshare, because I think lootshare must be added oldschool runescape, regardless you consider it ''oldschool'' or not, it is not fair for people (like me) that are not in a clan, because we cannot do PvM without being in a clan or getting the risk to get scammed, I really hope Lootshare will be added in this game, even tho it is at 70% yes atm

09-Mar-2016 10:50:11

Aulzhhm
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Aulzhhm

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This lootshare isn't going to change anything? It'll just combat crashing abit.
The rest is just that loot will be shared more random within the group?

Another thing i will never vote yes for this until there comes a better sollution for when ironmen are getting crashed. As you have stated before this is a problem, so find a fix for crashing before you start any type of lootsharing.

09-Mar-2016 13:04:19

Belg

Belg

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We all play this same mmor** for years.
Always our drops have been based on rng, i do not see why we would change this.
If polling lootshare make sure it works like explained above.
Also we have never been able to check our 'lsp'. Id like to see this worked out tho

09-Mar-2016 15:11:51

ArBae

ArBae

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coinshare or i don't see the point. i'd like to go to bandos and just team up with random people using coinshare, thats how people form friendships and continue playing together and it would be a good thing for clans, they can bring along anyone to their trips with no worries at all.

The only thing lootshare does (especially w/o LSP) is broadcasts drops. which already happens. or am I missing something?

09-Mar-2016 16:42:13

Green draqun

Green draqun

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I have to ask, why is the team specifically not allowing the team's damage to be pooled? As it is, the only change is that a random member gets the loot. If a group of people are loyal, the loot will be split anyway, so this does not help whatsoever.

09-Mar-2016 18:29:21

Kaion

Kaion

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Coinshare which sells at current highest is the best solution. And probably charge a few % as coinshare tax to remove gold from this game.

There is no way someone put 1 gp on GE will buy your AGS. Why? Because there is always people who flip. The only way you can buy at an unrealistic price is dumping an item to satisfy all flippers who set their price a few % below current market.

For example:
ACB is currently at 24.1m
There must be A LOT of buyers setting their offer at 22-23. If you want to buy at 1m each, you need to sell hundreds of ACB to these guys first so your 1m became highest bid, which is impossible. You may end up selling ur ACB at 23 but any proceeds you receive is unlikely different from the market price as you are going to sell it to the HIGHEST CURRENT BID. If the highest current bid is 23, I doubt your ACB will sell overnight at 24.1. What you may lose is the few % of tax and maybe a few hundred k below the GE medium.

For those who claim you don't need lootshare/coinshare, think about other people. You can disable it if you want to anyway. When you say lootshare does not belong to this game, remember it exists in 2007 and those easy GP or XP such as Zulrah and NMZ should be removed instead, those aren't old school.

Also, for people who say shardshare will make shards selling cheaper than item itself, Jagex can make GE automatically pool the shards together and match the offer that is bidding an item. So you won't get ripped off. There are many ways to make a system better instead of outright rejecting it.

09-Mar-2016 22:07:15

Kaion

Kaion

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Btw, to all those who claim the *old* coinshare system caused inflation. It did not happen at least in 2009. And it will only cause inflation under certain conditions.

More money in the game does not mean inflation. Here is a simple example:
If there is only 1 AGS in the game and the economy has 1b GP in total, the AGS may worth a lot because it is scarce.
What if there is 100 AGS in the game and the economy has 1b? Do you think AGS will worth more? "More" is in relative sense, if items like ags or tassets are generated faster than cash, they will go down. Coinshare/Instantshare/Shardshare encouraged more people pvm and increase the supply of these BIS items.

Also, coinshare only generate more cash than expected when this happen:
A bcp split @13m, however it does not sell on GE because its actual value is 10m. Extra 3m is generated.
Yes, cash is generated here, but why actual value is 10m instead of 13m? It is probably because more pvm make these drops more common. So more money is generated, but is this inflation?

More cash is generated but it will not make your BIS stuff more expensive (look at 2009 prices). It will make items which aren't affected by coinshare more expensive (especially those related to bossing).
Reason:
More people go bossing, they need more p pot but ranarr supply is not affected by more people killing graador. So these will become more expensive. Same goes for barrows items or sharks etc. which aren't impacted by more people killing bosses.

At the end it makes stuff balanced, bossing becomes more convenient and profit may went down. People who spend time fishing or farming ranarr makes more money. BIS items became cheaper for everyone.

10-Mar-2016 09:02:34

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