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Enflamed
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Enflamed

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The only real problem I have with this is that there's no simple solution to shards not having value. Nobody is going to be enticed to buy my 100 Bandos Chestplate shards if they're looking to straight up buy a BCP.

I suggest primarily having CoinShare, as it seemed like a great idea. It didn't generate coins or items. First, check for the highest offer in the Grand Exchange. If there is no offer, split it evenly into Shards.

Then, when selling the Shards, if a player is attempting to buy a Bandos Chestplate, pool together any Shards that would make up 300. So if I have 100 Shards that won't sell, but 4 other players have 50, it pools together all of our shards to make 300. Then, give the player buying the Bandos Chestplate the 300 shards and split the money based on how many shards each individual owner put into the Grand Exchange.

The system sounds a bit clunky (but yet far less clunky than Shard Share), but things always need to be worked out. Make it so that players selling shards will ALWAYS get the price they put or more, based on the buyer's offer. Also, prioritize the actual items -> higher shard amount -> lower shard amount.

Yeah, the system sounds weird, but Shards are a bad solution in general. Incorporating them will be weird.

Additionally, a great addition to the game would be mutual bossing chats, where one player creates a room, invites the other players by message, and when they decide to start bossing, they can "close" the group, removing kicking privileges from the creator, and automatically enabling CoinShare/ShardShare/LootShare.

Just a few ideas, though probably bad.

09-Feb-2016 17:12:55

os SlayScape
Jan Member 2015

os SlayScape

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no to all shares. everyone whining about this share and that share but only few have talked about crashing. jmods how will you address the problem of big party of low levels crashing a small party off maxed players when every share option gives the loot to biggest damage % party? imo every share is just a way for low levels to crash bosses and same time removes worlds where people can solo.
and what is wrong with current system? if you cant find anyone you trust then solo bosses. there isnt a boss in game that cant be killed alone. ffs theres ironmen with corp pets in game.
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon… No matter how good you are the bird is going to **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway.

09-Feb-2016 17:20:20

New Asstolfo

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Perfect Idea! Much better then loot share I'll be voting yes I encourage everyone to vote yes too. I hated being in a mass clan using loot share watching precious high level spirit shields only go to 1 person, this way I know it'll be worth spending $ when I know I can get a split. (The struggle is gone) :D

09-Feb-2016 17:26:28

Kim
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Kim

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Seriously?

LootShare / CoinShare for bossing were my favourite activity on RuneScape...
With this not being a feature, I cannot see myself being on OSRS for a long term.

ShardShare is OKAY I guess, but like the others I am so much against the idea of this as it's a part of RS3 and apparently people don't like it there either... The sound to me is terrifying.

The Forum/Twitter/Reddit is not even 1% of the community, remember how many people that were against GE? You stilled polled it, it still won... even with a major throw down on everywhere.


Poll in order if failed.
Original LootShare -> tweaked LootShare -> nothing
Original CoinShare -> tweaked CoinShare -> ShardShare -> Nothing


You still let G.E pass the planning table with its original terms, even with the majority of people being angry.

And why cancel CoinShare with it then? You guys had a great plan regards it, where is that?



This is not fair Ronan.
NOT LIKE THIS .
[/ragetyping] What are you, a concerned beaver?

09-Feb-2016 17:26:51 - Last edited on 09-Feb-2016 17:31:42 by Kim

Mbox3O

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@PvM Flames - For highest offer, although very unlikely, you could have just 1 offer for an item, which would be for example 15k, whilst the item is 50m, would you like a 5k split from a 50m item? As i said very unlikely, but possible.

@OS SlayScape - Whats wrong with the current system? Even close friends happen to scam, not always, but theres been times where this has happened, and for soloing - NOT EVERYONE CAN SOLO CORP, its just ridiculous saying you cannot do this boss, because you cannot afford investing a lot of hours into learning how the game works.. And for your main point - because crashing makes you upset, you don't have to down vote everything related to it, they might release it so it counts avg dmg per clan, not the total.. So, you can blame it on 2 things, you being ignorant as hell, and the Jagex mods not explaining every single detail that youd want to know, having you or others confused about the topic.

@Kim Original coinshare is broken, as explained in my previous post, and a tweaked coinshare is pretty much shard-share is, only shardshare should convert shards to items in ge if theres an offer for the shard total cost, and noones selling the item for said cost.

09-Feb-2016 17:34:12 - Last edited on 09-Feb-2016 17:36:34 by Mbox3O

Turkey One

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Kim said :
Seriously?

LootShare / CoinShare for bossing were my favourite activity on RuneScape...
With this not being a feature, I cannot see myself being on OSRS for a long term.

ShardShare is OKAY I guess, but like the others I am so much against the idea of this as it's a part of RS3 and apparently people don't like it there either... The sound to me is terrifying.

The Forum/Twitter/Reddit is not even 1% of the community, remember how many people that were against GE? You stilled polled it, it still won... even with a major throw down on everywhere.


Poll in order if failed.
Original LootShare -> tweaked LootShare -> nothing
Original CoinShare -> tweaked CoinShare -> ShardShare -> Nothing


You still let G.E pass the planning table with its original terms, even with the majority of people being angry.

And why cancel CoinShare with it then? You guys had a great plan regards it, where is that?



This is not fair Ronan.
NOT LIKE THIS .
[/ragetyping]
Well you should probably just quit because nearly everything in OSRS is part of RS3. *dxdxd

Seriously though it doesn't matter what is in RS3 and what isn't. Almost every idea in game design is recycled. The only thing that matters is if its a good idea or a bad idea. That's it.

09-Feb-2016 17:34:35 - Last edited on 09-Feb-2016 17:35:22 by Turkey One

epiclegacy77

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Smaller drops are not split into shards. Instead, they are awarded to a random player in your team. This makes sure that everyone who is in your team, whether they are a damage dealer or a tank, has a shot at getting a few drops

well still add lsp for this atleast for it is more fair for smaller drops make it a togglable option to enable lsp and this will be by the clan chat owner and will count for everyone if it is on.

also add a togglable option which makes it where if depending on how much damage you deal then more lsp you will gain so higher leveled players are still interested and still a chance for lower levels too.because why would higher levels ever go with lower unless there is a met balance.

this option may affect your share of shards too that way higher levels will still boss with lower levels so this is the balance.or maybe a separate option for each of these.

the only way these would work is if the clan chat owner switched them on and it counted for everyone.

You and your team must join a friends chat and from there you will be able to click a button to enable Shard Share. The owner of the friends chat will be able to choose what rank is required in order to enable Shard Share, preventing any unwanted teammates sneaking in.make it where it shows who is shardsharing.

if the clan chat owner decides to change the way this works make it a 20 minute wait or something so people dont manipulate the system.what if i enable shardshare then he raises rank will i still have it enabled? will the chat let me know? make this 20 minute wait for any changes to the system and chat will let everyone know like every 5 minutes and he can switch it back anytime to stop the clock,


Yes! If you just want to randomise who gets the drops within your team you can do so without your big drops being split into shards. It will be as simple as the friends chat host toggling the shard option. You will still need to be on a Shard Share world, though'

cool i like this one.

09-Feb-2016 17:35:25

epiclegacy77

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please wait to poll this as we can see the community is very decisive about what they want and seeing how important this one is dont poll it all of a sudden unless massive positive feedback on latest blog wait on this subject please.

09-Feb-2016 17:41:29

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