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Spuddykinz

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In a way opinionated, I'd rather have loot-share, honestly because the fact of TRADITIONAL Runescape goes, people go in packs to team or risk it for a biscuit solo'in* Graardor, or any other bosses in that matter.

Teaming in general is a great way to make decent friends in the game, and have the best time slaying the bosses, of course for loot, and for friendly reactions. You cannot JUST focus on the economy of the game and making the whole game "easy" for people, you can see already with all the botters, gold-farmers, gold-sellers, etc and we don't even have any props on that and here we go looking on Reddit for ideas to implement for the game. So why focus there if we can get rid of all the main important stuff little by little first, before going and saying "Nah we'll leave it be and just go for this idea next!" I've played this game for multiple years, and for what I have to say, I've played, same with most people here in the game have played LONGER than what most Jagex employees have ever even been here in the company. More power to the players, if we have suggestions that we all vote on and make posts about, WITHIN OUR OWN FORUMS, [NOT REDDIT] we can get somewhere, otherwise let's tackle on the more important things? Runescape 2 & 3 Got ruined after my first year of playing from all these kinds of updates, where we don't focus on the players period.

The next time a poll like this comes around, Ronan, keep in mind that a whole lot of us rather have these changes first, we can wait for it, don't rush to get ideas up and running for the game, Runescape will not die out in this way, the Grand Exchange has it's stock market-like attributions and we have the same ol' merchants and alchemist opportunists, doing their thing. We can leave this idea be until the day we get all of the social and demographical features of the game stabilized.

Not trying to make any offense to anyone, but it's all I can really say about this whole post, thanks for reading.

-J

09-Feb-2016 17:45:59

Ironman Thad

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Isn't it funny now.... All the scammers can't scam now with shardshare, so automatically it's no good.

Honestly, this is the only viable way to put this loot control crap into the game, even though it is totally not needed.

I'd still prefer none of the above, in terms of Lootshare, Coinshare, or Shardshare, but since that obviously won't be the case, the only real choice is Shardshare.

The others are so highly flawed that they could never work without constant anti-cheat tweaking for months, possibly years.

I hate the whole concept, but seeing as how we are going to have it shoved in our faces one way or another, might as well choose the least damaging of the three Shares.

I will vote no, although I can see this being pushed through no matter what.
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09-Feb-2016 17:49:04

P E A C E
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Love it!! I'm really excited about the shard share system!!

One question.. How will I know if I have the chance of getting a shard drop if I'm in someone else's cc? Will there be a message that says I am allowed to share drops? I should also get a message if it changes and suddenly I'm not allowed to share drops anymore.

Thanks!

Edit: Just read through the comments and people were saying this system didn't work well on RS3. In that case I would stick with the instant coinshare system that automatically sells for the highest price in the GE.

09-Feb-2016 17:49:39 - Last edited on 09-Feb-2016 18:02:38 by P E A C E

Kim
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@Turkey One
Some Stuff on RS3 is actually pretty cool and could see the light here aswell, turkey guy.
ShardShare however is really an ugly version of LS/CS when you have the opportunity to do better.
What are you, a concerned beaver?

09-Feb-2016 17:54:41 - Last edited on 09-Feb-2016 17:54:52 by Kim

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The reason I like this idea is because lootshare was soo easy to abuse and was complete crap.. For some people who only boss maybe once a week for a few hours, we will NEVER get a drop compared to the people who boss 10 hours a day and have a ton of LSP. It was a super broken system and I'm glad it isn't coming back.

If this idea doesn't work then I think the instant coin-share system would work as well. It just automatically sells for the highest price in the GE. Every item is always going to have some rich merchant waiting to get it so there isn't really a problem there.

09-Feb-2016 17:56:42

os SlayScape
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os SlayScape

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@Like It Cold
- Whats wrong with the current system? Even close friends happen to scam, not always, but theres been times where this has happened, and for soloing - NOT EVERYONE CAN SOLO CORP, its just ridiculous saying you cannot do this boss, because you cannot afford investing a lot of hours into learning how the game works.. And for your main point - because crashing makes you upset, you don't have to down vote everything related to it, they might release it so it counts avg dmg per clan, not the total.. So, you can blame it on 2 things, you being ignorant as hell, and the Jagex mods not explaining every single detail that youd want to know, having you or others confused about the topic.

Even close friends happen to scam, not always, but theres been times where this has happened.
id be happy if this happened to me. if i cant trust my close friends with virtual currency its time to forget them. better to find out that way instead of getting screwed in a real life situation.

" And for your main point - because crashing makes you upset, you don't have to down vote everything related to it"

i think this is the main reason to down vote everything related to it. if something makes me upset then why should i vote for it?
and if you read my post you should have noticed that i asked jmods to address this issue. if they do it some future dev blogs and im comfortable with their idea i might vote yes for share
but you flaming and calling me ignorant would not push me to vote for this system.
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09-Feb-2016 17:57:50

Raros

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This will go through seeing the people who are in favour of this poll + the people who are barely active in clans will vote for this.

Its a great idea and i will support this.

If i had to choose between prevent scamming or protect the so called PvM clans i would say prevent scamming because that is a serious issue nowadays then so called elitists having their reqs up.

People will still join clans. Imagine finding a pvm group to go ShardShare with if you get get to know each other they might wanna join the clan you are in which was the same case when coinshare was out back in the day :)

09-Feb-2016 17:59:47

Maxed Flex

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I fully support this decision because I believe that Jagex has enough experience to ensure we are putting the right systems into the game. Jagex has never in the past meant to hurt the community or do any harm. I feel like we are finally in a position to move forward with OSRS without any fear of having our dreams ripped away from us. Andrew Gower said in a storytime Q&A that he was so excited that OSRS was coming back and also that he never wanted the game to have all of the problems it ended up having. Finally, We are in a time where we can make this game what we really want it to be. :) ,
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09-Feb-2016 18:00:07

Zeale

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Shard Share. That will do. Coinshare would inflate the economy very quickly. Lootshare didn't quite solve the trust issue. '

Also, players shouldn't be confined to joining a clan to PvM with a team. There needs to be a trust-worthy but spontaneous method of PvMing with whoever. Shard Share solves this. What's the issue?
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09-Feb-2016 18:03:06

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