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Firstly, about the graphics: Take time to make this a quality update. The original Jad / Tzhaar caves obviously had a great deal of design and care put into them before they were released. Rushing to put out an update creates problems. Noone wants half assed updates. When this comes out, we should be able to look at it like we did the original Jad and marvel at the excellent job the team did.
In the past, the team has made updates that blow players away with their quality. The Grand Exchange and Resizable Mode were but a few of these. But lately, large updates like DMM and Zeah have left alot of people with a "meh" attitude. Of course, Zeah isn't close to complete, but so far there has been a swarm of complaints regarding its total lack of content, as if they had space to fill and no idea what to do with it. Deadman Mode has ended up with <100 players on its servers due to design flaws which were obvious even prior to its release.
Let's not make Jad II that way. So if the poll passes, take the time and wait.
About the concept of Jad II itself. Several people on this forum have wondered why bother making the same thing over for a slightly better version of an existing item, and I understand that. What's the point of the fire cape when this comes out? It's going to be outdated, and thus begins the power creep towards the BIS item. One of RS3's biggest failures, in my opinion, is that there are too many items; weapons are added and added but nothing was taken away. Whips when I left were 70K. AGS was 2M. The consequence was a high amount of unused or abandoned content remaining in the game. Once people pay the fire cape price, there's no reason to ever go back to the fight caves. = Dead Content. I know it's too late now to make any new suggestions, but I would have liked to see perhaps a mage/range themed Jad that was on par with the difficulty of the original fightcaves. I don't think we need a new BIS cape, so I probably won't vote for it. But pass if it must.

25-Jan-2016 03:56:57

Kurask Alt

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Indicaa said :
This is the start of something very bad for OSRS. The goal of old school runescape should be to preserve runescape, preserve the nostalgia, and for the most part, keep it playing the way it used to be back in its prime (2007-08). All these new updates coming out mirror the failures of RS3. New major city/new BIS fire cape with coming with jad2

Not to mention, Jad2 didnt even win in the polls! Jagex has explicitly said that subjects in the polls need to have at least 75% yes votes to pass. The Jad2 poll had 72.5Y/27.5N when it ended. They say that this poll system is designed to let the PLAYERS have control of the game updates. That is clearly not the case, considering they are still coming out with this horrible update regardless of the outcome. At this point, you can clearly see how much your vote matters.

I'm not saying there should be no new content, but jagex needs to seriously consider the level of change they are bringing to this game. If they keep releasing new gear like this, soon barrows/whips/bandos/arma will all be outdated and worthless like they are in RS3. Trust me, NOBODY wants that.. We want whips, we want barrows, we want granite mauls, we want dds specs, etc. By releasing new tiers of items, you are also destroying the relevancy of the items that came before them, the items that truly make OLDSCHOOL runescape great.

Jagex - People didnt come to Old School Runescape for the content, they came for the nostalgia. When this first came out, people got back on the same game they have previously played for YEARS purely for the nostalgia. Dont lose sight of what is really important for this game. It is very foolish to think that new major content is going to be what attracts your player base. Get back to the basics.

With respect
-Indicaa

Yes. I feel most of the people wanting constant bis-like updates never experienced what we did in 07-08

25-Jan-2016 14:42:26

Upeo

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[quote id=380-381-256-65733712-299-337785567]I'm glad you're still pushing this, but without the mage/range cape variants I'm voting this down. Something decent in the cape slot for magic and ranged was the [i]only[/i] reason I voted yes in the last poll. [gold][u]We are singularly buffing the strongest side of the combat triangle yet again.[/u][/gold] ...and right after it just got a new best-in-slot for crush weapon... ...with a monster of a special attack... Magic is the most expensive combat type to use, so why does it have the worst options in terms of speed of attack and max hit? Ranged is only comparable with bank-draining methods like the blowpipe or diamond bolts. ...and melee only sucks comparable money if you use a serpentine visage.. [gold][u] Let's compare the current best-in-slot capes[/u][/gold] [i][lightblue]Magic's[/lightblue] best in slot cape is a god cape from Mage Arena...[/i] +10 hit (magic accuracy is mostly based on level), +1 defense, NO prayer, NO max hit bonus [i][forestgreen]Ranged's[/forestgreen] best in slot is the [b]intermediate quest reward[/b] Ava's.. [/i] +4 hit, NO prayer, NO defense, and NO max hit bonus [i][chocolate]Melee's[/chocolate] best in slot is the new inferno cape...[/i] +4 hit, +12 all defense, +? prayer, and +2 max hit bonus I realize the minority of the old school community that hates buffs to anything and everything is exceptionally vocal, but removing mage/ranged rewards was far too extreme of a nerf considering that the poll only missed approval by about 2.5%. 75% to pass makes sense, I agree with the process. However, take into account the degree to which it failed before you re-propose, because that's [i]far more relevant[/i] than what a small, EXCEPTIONALLY XENOPHOBIC, percentage of the population says on social media. In my opinion, you should [gold][i]find a way to add better ranged and magic cape-slot items before you bother givi[/quote] Moron. We voted no & will again.

25-Jan-2016 14:45:31

Aliensslayer

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Hi oldschool team!

I wanne change my previous opinion on this content...

You have delivered some awsome updates the past year again!

BUT...

The poll did NOT pass, what means we dont want this update...

Stop pushing this content toward us! We voted NO!

Pleas bring something new, not just another tweaked boss... And the cape is a tweaked copy of the 1 i saw in RS3! Sad!!!

Grtz Alien!

25-Jan-2016 15:18:49

Lytra

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Graphics like in 2009? OMG YES! YES YES AND YES! I miss the old-not old graphics

No to the inferno and Monkey Madness 2 tho. I don't want such new things that never existed in the real 2007-2012! I truly enjoy Runescape, especially the Old School version! I am strongly hoping for an Old School HD Update as in 2008-11!

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Big HUN

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25-Jan-2016 16:01:34

Big Fat A

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Dear Jagex

Please don't ruin the game by adding more new overpowered items.
Seriously, what's the point of the fire cape when this comes out? Just in short amount of time, so many items has been released.

Instead of adding a new cave/fire cape, give the classic firecape better stats and make jad even stronger than it is.

25-Jan-2016 17:06:42

SayWatAgain

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Dear oldschool team,

I like the idea of having something separate from the fight caves and I believe that postponing it for quality reasons is in the best interest of the old school community. There is still plenty of work to be done in Zeah so there is no reason to rush this out. As far as the cape is concerned I know many people are displeased with having the reward just being a single cape instead of the option of range/magic capes. To remedy this why not have the single new cape affect combat in a more versatile way than simply buffing up the old fire cape to double the strength bonus and slightly higher attack bonuses. Instead of having these increased stats why not have it do something to the extent of reducing the total damage received from any combat type by a small percentage or increasing the rate of which the special attack bar regenerates (or both). We've already had several items introduced into the game that give higher total strength and if this new fight is going to be as challenging as you've made it out to be then why not make the reward something that breaks away from this path and is worthwhile. As for how the cape looks visually I like the different color for the lava but I think it would look better with something that rests over the shoulders since only achievement capes have this awesome look.

Keep up the good work!
SayWatAgain

25-Jan-2016 17:17:00

My Max

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Please don't add this melee cape, all we want are better looking and stronger range/melee capes. And we want the prayer bonus!

btw: graphics do matter a lot to me, i would like to see an improved animation of the way you shoot arrows with a regular bow, crossbow looks fine to me.

25-Jan-2016 18:17:39

Iwasawa

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...depending on the monsters you encounter. Online guides should be as minimally helpful as possible in this way since the cape should be an achievement of a truly qualified player. Experience playing the game and a cool head should be more important than the right supplies and tactics. There are more things which I would suggest, though I think you can understand how I think the update should be approached.

25-Jan-2016 20:16:47

Lytra

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My Max said :
Please don't add this melee cape, all we want are better looking and stronger range/melee capes. And we want the prayer bonus!

btw: graphics do matter a lot to me, i would like to see an improved animation of the way you shoot arrows with a regular bow, crossbow looks fine to me.

Agreed! Like in 2008-2012 right?

I love the newer graphics that was after the 2008 graphics update. I think it maked everything look better: Your character, chat dialogues with npcs, animations(bow,venge),Gameplay, monsters... YES To 2008 graphics update!

I truly enjoy Runescape, especially the Old School version! I am strongly hoping for an Old School HD Update as in 2008-11!

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26-Jan-2016 13:53:32

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