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Slapmeister

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We don't need this its just a waste of dev time, we do not need a new BIS cape. What we do need is Zeah to be a more solid peice of content. we don't need new content right now, with all these brand new BIS peice of equipment already in the game. what we need is for you guys to look at lackluster, broken and dead part of the game and focus on those. Making the game a more well rounded experience.

23-Jan-2016 19:41:50

Foxy Shazam

Foxy Shazam

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Ziggurattus said :
Aside from how it looks though, I have issue with how it's to be obtained - it's another fight cave (which already exists). The more challenging boss fight might be interesting, but apart from that, why introduce power-creep to an exceedingly similar 'best in slot' item that's obtained in a similar way? The cape itself doesn't introduce any interesting mechanistic value, it's just slightly better in terms of stats, and I believe it would be more interesting to do something to obtain it that isn't essentially the same thing I did to get its forerunner.


Couldn't have said it better my self.. why is no one else seeing this point this man is making.

There already is a wave system mini-game leading up to an incredible boss that gives the BiS Cape. Why make it again, right next to it... People who say this isn't a rehash of kiln are obviously unaware.

Don't add a better melee cape, but add the other two combat variants that resemble the fire cape.

Also if this passes (oh jeez I hope it doesn't), at least add some prayer to the cape, it's all its missing to really be considered the tokhaar-kal. Or just leave it without prayer and watch the community uproar.
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23-Jan-2016 20:44:04

Simplex
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Simplex

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Jagex Oldschool Staff,

I had strong opinions about Jad 2 not being released the first time. However, this revision seems to be very well put. I am glad to see that you simply kept the melee cape for this update and it looks amazing.

This being said, I have been a rs player for over 10 years (leaving and coming back due to bad/good updates to the game) so I know how important it is for the community to receive a good update. And this is an update I can stand for; BUT, -

-Please poll the date of release, sooner or later, in the content poll. I think it is too early to release Jad 2 and instead should be released next January with the Zeah pt.3 update, like you had suggested Ronan. Thanks.

23-Jan-2016 23:57:49

Simplex
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Simplex

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Jagex Oldschool Staff,

I had strong opinions about Jad 2 not being released the first time. However, this revision seems to be very well put. I am glad to see that you simply kept the melee cape for this update and it looks amazing.

This being said, I have been a rs player for over 10 years (leaving and coming back due to bad/good updates to the game) so I know how important it is for the community to receive a good update. And this is an update I can stand for; BUT, -

-Please poll the date of release, sooner or later, in the content poll. I think it is too early to release Jad 2 and instead should be released next January with the Zeah pt.3 update, like you had suggested Ronan. Thanks.

23-Jan-2016 23:57:49

Indicaa

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This is the start of something very bad for OSRS. The goal of old school runescape should be to preserve runescape, preserve the nostalgia, and for the most part, keep it playing the way it used to be back in its prime (2007-08). All these new updates coming out mirror the failures of RS3. New major city/new BIS fire cape with coming with jad2

Not to mention, Jad2 didnt even win in the polls! Jagex has explicitly said that subjects in the polls need to have at least 75% yes votes to pass. The Jad2 poll had 72.5Y/27.5N when it ended. They say that this poll system is designed to let the PLAYERS have control of the game updates. That is clearly not the case, considering they are still coming out with this horrible update regardless of the outcome. At this point, you can clearly see how much your vote matters.

I'm not saying there should be no new content, but jagex needs to seriously consider the level of change they are bringing to this game. If they keep releasing new gear like this, soon barrows/whips/bandos/arma will all be outdated and worthless like they are in RS3. Trust me, NOBODY wants that.. We want whips, we want barrows, we want granite mauls, we want dds specs, etc. By releasing new tiers of items, you are also destroying the relevancy of the items that came before them, the items that truly make OLDSCHOOL runescape great.

Jagex - People didnt come to Old School Runescape for the content, they came for the nostalgia. When this first came out, people got back on the same game they have previously played for YEARS purely for the nostalgia. Dont lose sight of what is really important for this game. It is very foolish to think that new major content is going to be what attracts your player base. Get back to the basics.

With respect
-Indicaa

24-Jan-2016 03:31:26

Smart Rick

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no do unique content this is the exact same thing as fight klin i play old school cause its not rs3 with op gear this is litterly just copying some rs3 content zeah is not rs3 content so it makes sence but this dosent OSRS and RS3 player close to 9 years in game

24-Jan-2016 03:58:55

Piwinator

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First of all I want to say that the graphics don't matter all that much to me. As long as it fits with the current style. But the fact that you could have more time to balance and test the new caves makes me vote for January. You then could implement it in a much better way than just next to the fight caves and give it more context. If you put it in the vulcan city now it'll feel glued on.

Now I wonder why you try to keep the bis item. I know that in fact 72% voted for a new bis cape. But one of the reasons why some people left RS3 is the fact that bis items came in rapid succesion. I like the idea that it's only a melee cape. So you keep the diversity in the bis slots between the combat triangle.

I know oldskool players are a difficult audience because on one hand they don't want things to change but they do want new updates. And when you offer items that don't bring massive advantages in comparison to the previous items they rant. But bigger isn't always better.

To finish this, I'd rather see some good quality of life updates that make our time more enjoyable than some rushed content that could've been very good. :)

Keep it up!

24-Jan-2016 16:20:53

Gubzs

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I'm glad you're still pushing this, but without the mage/range cape variants I'm voting this down. Something decent in the cape slot for magic and ranged was the only reason I voted yes in the last poll.

We are singularly buffing the strongest side of the combat triangle yet again.

...and right after it just got a new best-in-slot for crush weapon...
...with a monster of a special attack...

Magic is the most expensive combat type to use, so why does it have the worst options in terms of speed of attack and max hit?

Ranged is only comparable with bank-draining methods like the blowpipe or diamond bolts.

...and melee only sucks comparable money if you use a serpentine visage..


Let's compare the current best-in-slot capes

Magic's
best in slot cape is a god cape from Mage Arena...

+10 hit (magic accuracy is mostly based on level), +1 defense, NO prayer, NO max hit bonus

Ranged's
best in slot is the intermediate quest reward Ava's..

+4 hit, NO prayer, NO defense, and NO max hit bonus

Melee's
best in slot is the new inferno cape...

+4 hit, +12 all defense, +? prayer, and +2 max hit bonus

I realize the minority of the old school community that hates buffs to anything and everything is exceptionally vocal, but removing mage/ranged rewards was far too extreme of a nerf considering that the poll only missed approval by about 2.5%.

75% to pass makes sense, I agree with the process. However, take into account the degree to which it failed before you re-propose, because that's far more relevant than what a small, EXCEPTIONALLY XENOPHOBIC, percentage of the population says on social media.

In my opinion, you should
find a way to add better ranged and magic cape-slot items before you bother giving melee an un-necessary new best-in-slot.
"We seem to be annoyed with each other, and as fascinating as that is, it's irritating as hell." - John Lithgow

24-Jan-2016 21:24:33 - Last edited on 25-Jan-2016 00:04:18 by Gubzs

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