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The introduction of soul and blood Runecrafting will not increase the maximum possible experience per hour for the skill. We would like to make sure that the existing top tier methods are left untouched."

id vote no just cause of this, it should be faster way to train since it reqs higher levels....rc is slow enough even the slightest xp/hour boost would help. why should lavas which req 23 be the fastest runes to make unless you are comparing talismans xp or at least bring out a something to else that does boost the xp/hour that req higher level. RS3:Bryce Legacy
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10-Nov-2015 20:19:49

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Is the new essence tradeable?

How long does it take to make the new essence?

How much skill exp do you get when you make the new essence?

Will this be the only way to get the new essence in the game or will some new monsters drop it?

I'll be voting no if nats at level 44 RC through the abyss give the same xp/hour as bloods at 77 RC and souls at 90 RC, dead content on release, especially considering the need to give us a third type of essence.

Why would anyone crafts bloods/ souls at 91+ RC when double nats will give the same exp, but higher profits than them? Makes no sense in my mind.

I'm sorry, this is a bit of a shoddy dev-blog with a lot of key information left out.

10-Nov-2015 20:19:55

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Just make them better xp than the other alters for crying out loud whats the point of bring out new higher tier alters if you're too worried making them grant more xp, runecrafting is already a rept*tive mind numbing skill all you'd be doing is bringing in the same method but with slightly more xp.

Also I'd rather see blood runes added in mortania seems like a big middle finger to current runescape lore. *´¨)¸.*´ Kilot ~ Failed RuneScape player.
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10-Nov-2015 20:20:46

Benvil
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Skiller said :
Budgets said :
Can you guys please poll ZMI already?
I'll be voting no. It's not needed, it's literally a skill devaluer and nothing else. Easyscape.
Yeah, it would totally make this easyscape. Because getting a "meh" profit at high levels for exp lower than lava runes would doom us all. Also, I'm assuming you use OSB like the majority of players, which essentially makes your "Easyscape" claim a dull point.

10-Nov-2015 20:23:58

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Mini Aurelia said :
I don't want to criticise the update before it even comes out but soul runes have few uses currently. I don't see why anyone would bother RCing them unless soul runes suddenly rose in price dramatically*

Money: Natures
XP: Lavas
A mix of both: Astrals

Who would use a soul altar?

The new spell books will use soul runes I think.

I agree that it's not good to have dead content straight from the release. It feels that they're being overly sensible towards nature runecrafters. Maybe the difference to not make it dead content from the start could be one of these:
1. Better XP/h than nature runes (but below lava runes) but worse gp/h
2. Better or same gp/h as nature runes but protection prayers required
3. Better or same gp/h as nature runes but heavy armour required
4. Try to keep it exactly at the same as nature runes but let the market decide and fluctuate the prices (dynamic)

Idk, just throwing things in the air. In any case it would be a shame if the altars were just another stepping stones till 91 rc.
I also think max runecrafting xp/h should be increased to balance runecrafting a little bit. Maybe 1-2% increase from lava runes.

10-Nov-2015 20:29:40

Disziple

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TPYMFB said :
How lazy.

They shouldn't be located in a city, let alone the same city. They should both be placed somewhere that makes sense. Going to vote no because it doesn't make sense.

I'd suggest polling whether or not people want them in Zeah or the current map, but you guys are too busy rushing content along to be bothered.

I got the impression that you can rc them through abyss but you need to prepare the essence in the city. It would be lame if both of the altars were in the city close to each other. Maybe there will be portals in the city? Eastern Morytania was good place for blood altar in my opinion.

10-Nov-2015 20:32:28

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Can you not explain the thought behind making them the levels that they are? currently at 91 you can either make bank at the cost of slow exp or host for the exp gains at the cost of slower exp, i can see how soul crafting could be slightly better middle ground for exp and gp but why make bloods 77 rc? too similar to x2 astrals

10-Nov-2015 20:43:18

Benvil
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Disziple said :
Mini Aurelia said :
I don't want to criticise the update before it even comes out but soul runes have few uses currently. I don't see why anyone would bother RCing them unless soul runes suddenly rose in price dramatically*

Money: Natures
XP: Lavas
A mix of both: Astrals

Who would use a soul altar?

The new spell books will use soul runes I think.
Yes, but the thing is, we don't even know if the new spellbook will pass a poll yet. I have the feeling it will be a hard sell, since the current spellbooks already cover most of our needs in terms of utility and combat.

Also, I'll be voting no to these new altars, which is a rarity to me. I regret voting yes to Zeah in the first place, because it seems like the current design for Zeah content is that it should re-invent the wheel. Why does these new altars suddenly need a new type of essence? Why can't they just be a simple addition, consistent with the rest of the altars, where I throw my pure essence at it to get runes?
Also, it sounds like there'll be very little incentive to use these altars, as they'll have higher requirements and be less rewarding than current options.

10-Nov-2015 20:44:12 - Last edited on 10-Nov-2015 20:45:12 by Benvil

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