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Greenmusiq
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Old Alec said :


I am convinced that you are a lost cause. I am also certain this poll will not even come close to passing. You seem to ignore the important points being brought up, as any rational player would notice. I end my argument here. Good luck on influencing as many narrow minded players as you can. It'll be in vain.

What important arguments?! You just keep saying the same thing about the player divide and network issues which I both have nullified. You just don't want to be proven wrong.

11-Jun-2015 20:24:31

Greenmusiq
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Lnar said :

-sigh-
I think i've made it clear that there are many arguments against this.
Ironman mode doesn't need it's own server(dev team), because it actually fits within the present servers. DDM does, it needs its own server to work. Otherwise, what's stopping reg. players from killing the guards that are meant to enforce the skulling system?

My point in reminding you that this is a PvP themed mode is because you keep suggesting that it isn't. Working together with PvM and PvP? are you kidding me? What happens when one person gets a rare drop. Then it's an absolute mess, a free for all. Not to mention that a lot of PVM zones are multi-zones, meaning, people can easily reduce a person from full-health in a matter of seconds if they choose to.

But wait, you're gonna tell me that "it's all teamwork", no one would do that, right?
well, when you're given the opportunity, people are probably going to take it, regardless of whether it's right or wrong.
I think you have some bad experiences with other players or in clan. If you don't trust the person, don't tell them about your plan and don't let him join your group.
Getting high levels in DDM will be very hard, killing high level bosses will be close to impossible which makes gear like dragon legs very popular.
What if someone gets a rare drop like dragon legs, who cares? Your team should only consist of trustworthy people. And even if 1 guy wants those legs and tries to kill the person, the other team members will kill him and will ban him from the clan which makes him alone and vulnerable to anyone.

11-Jun-2015 20:36:21

Greenmusiq
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Breaking down "Joy" 's comment for the 4th time now.


Dividing The Player Base:

How is this mode dividing the player base
, give me proof and examples. This mode requires skillers, PvM and PvP people together to be able to thrive in this harsh environment. PvM and skillers to gather resources and PvP to protect the both groupes. This game mode brings the 3 groups together. Without 1 of the 3, your group will fail.

Our Current PvP Is In Trouble:

You give
absolutely no evidence
to support this. You just mention DDoS attacks which are problems to be solved by the network team and has nothing to do with the osrs team.
PvP people are mostly 1v1. DDM PvP is pretty much clan based. You cannot easily survive in this game mode alone.

Player WILL QUIT:

Players without a plan and/or team could quit because it will be a lot harder for them and can quit. They will just return to their original game mode or ironman mode.
I told some of my quit friends about this game mode back in April when the stat reserts were back to level 1 instead of -7; and they were interested in playing again and forming a team. They were not interested in ironman mode at all because it's even more of a grind alone, while on DDM it will be a harder grind but you're not alone.

11-Jun-2015 20:55:13 - Last edited on 11-Jun-2015 21:21:14 by Greenmusiq

Greenmusiq
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Scripttsss said :
Even after all these negative comments they're going to implement this mode hahah just watch osrs die like before , great job jagex.

They don't implement updates unless it has 75% approval by the community via a poll.

If you have some negative thoughts about this idea, formulate them please and don't say things like:
Dividing up the community, ruin current pvp, I don't like it.
I've nullified all of those time and time again now on this forum.

11-Jun-2015 20:58:27

Greenmusiq
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Scripttsss said :
Even after all these negative comments they're going to implement this mode hahah just watch osrs die like before , great job jagex.

Then don't play the game mode .... You don't have to play it.
Let our (ironman) clan execute our current plan for DDM.

11-Jun-2015 21:01:16

what cam

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I'm not paying for another membership just to enjoy it for a few days only to be crushed by a team and lose everything.

I'd play this if there were "level milestones" as suggested previously (as in once you've reached a certain level in any given stat it can't be reduced below that point).

Will there be trading? This would lead to the concern of players all working to stock pile a single account that could wreck everyone.

I'm not spending weeks of risky grinding to prepare an account to take on other players and potentially die and inevitably rage quit. I think there are people in the community who would enjoy this, but very very few.

11-Jun-2015 21:01:28

Greenmusiq
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Do not like Deadman mode. The idea of a special account that only works on a few worlds seems bad.
Why?


Why take the little PK traffic away from legitimate PK areas?
Pking is mostly done 1v1. 1v1 pkers have little to do in this game mode alone because it is very hard to thrive alone in this mode. You need a team, which 1v1 pkers don't do. They return to w18 edge.


Deadman mode is only good on the specific worlds. I doubt I would play it.
Good for you?


The mode is too strict to put effort into.
That's the point, they even nerfed the stat reduction on death from back to 1 to -7.


Do not like the idea of a separate level system/account.
So you also don't like Ironman mode?


Hope we get to vote will vote no on this. I would enjoy the mode if it were less strict and more like a PVP-ironman mode, possibly with the bank key (maybe...), with more worlds so all the splashing idiots don't make PVP-ironman impossible. I really think Deadman is not what our community needs for PVP-ironman.
?? what? pvp + ironman makes no sense. Ironman basically means no trading between players. When an ironman kills another ironman in this PvP-ironman mode of yours, does this mean he can take the loot which has been dropped on death? That's pretty much trading to me.

11-Jun-2015 21:11:16 - Last edited on 11-Jun-2015 21:15:00 by Greenmusiq

Greenmusiq
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Pie Guy 0001 said :
Please poll this before putting too much work into it.

This could very well fail to pass a poll. I know I'm voting no.

Why? Tell us your reasons.........
Voting no without any clear and rational reasoning behind it should be invalid.


"I don't like it" is no reason, that's personal

11-Jun-2015 21:17:46 - Last edited on 11-Jun-2015 21:23:18 by Greenmusiq

Stinkowing
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I'm actually afraid to post my thoughts here due to people like Ironmusiq, who have attempted to tear apart everyone's arguments; I do not wish for my post to be the next one, but let me say that I agree with this:

what cam said :
I'm not paying for another membership just to enjoy it for a few days only to be crushed by a team and lose everything.

I'd play this if there were "level milestones" as suggested previously (as in once you've reached a certain level in any given stat it can't be reduced below that point).

Will there be trading? This would lead to the concern of players all working to stock pile a single account that could wreck everyone.

I'm not spending weeks of risky grinding to prepare an account to take on other players and potentially die and inevitably rage quit. I think there are people in the community who would enjoy this, but very very few.

I bolded that last part for a reason; I have better things to do in both RuneScape 3 and OSRS than to be killed off by PKers (who I despise) in freaking Lumbridge .

Also, I can't wait for the teams who, if this passes, will gang up on the skulling guards to distract them so they can't fight actual skullers Oh, I almost forgot.
Oh, I already forgot.

11-Jun-2015 21:22:34 - Last edited on 11-Jun-2015 21:23:53 by Stinkowing

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