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Greenmusiq said :
Misto said :
Losing 7 lvls in every skill is waayyy to much. I can see people quitting really quick.

As others have said pkers hate training. SO if everytime they die they lose massive amounts of XP no one is going to play for long.

Only way i can see this working and actually being really fun is if XP is doubled or something.
DDM isn't a mode for pkers. I'm a skiller and I would enjoy it a lot because I will be useful for my clan so we can continue our planned strategy in this game mode. Giving new purposes to the original way of doing things.
Dying and losing 7 lvls in all your stats is their to balance it. When your team takes down someone of high level, he'll lose a lot more xp which means it will take a lot longer for him to get high level in something again.
That's why your team needs to strategize.

Not everyone will have teams. Not every team will be able to always play together. This, is an extremely broken factor in this mode. Creating something that is almost exclusively dependent on other players/team is terrible. Think about the reactions people had when Dungeoneering was first coming out. Because of this simple factor, this game mode will fail.

All of your arguments are invalid due to the DDoS issue. Nothing will make someone want to continue playing after disconnecting and losing 100+ hours of grind/their banks. Yes, we may yet eventually improve our servers, but DDoS'ing is a thing that will never go away. As long as there is internet connection, there will be someone attempting to DDoS.

This mode is destined for failure. It was created solely with the vision of generating more money into the pockets of Jagex employees, hence, the reason is was so terribly thought out and so poorly received. Someone said it in a post on reddit, and I will repeat them:

It is not that we don't want you to have this for the sake of you not having it.
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11-Jun-2015 15:48:36 - Last edited on 11-Jun-2015 15:49:04 by Old Alec

Greenmusiq
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[quote id=380-381-187-65635935-251-335948275][b][firebrick]Spreading Ourselves Thin[/firebrick][/b] Incorrect. Firstly: this will add new players to the game because they want to form a team with their friends. second: Skillers, PvM and PvP are pretty much separated in the main game, I agree. In DDM you need a team of skillers, PvM and PvP to be able to thrive in this game mode! Skillers and PvM gather supplies and the PvP protect the 2 other groups from dying. One group cannot thrive alone. It will bring them together instead of farther apart! [b][firebrick]Pressing Matters[/firebrick][/b] Currently, there are more pressing matters at hand than trivial updates such as Deadman Mode, namely the network issues. While as a community we realize these take time to resolve and that they require a special network team, we also know that we cannot afford updates that will be drastically affected by these issues. [b][firebrick]Dead Updates - What Happened?[/firebrick][/b] Network issues are problems for the network team and has nothing to do with the osrs team. Writing js code is not the same as configuration of your network firewall.

11-Jun-2015 15:52:05

Greenmusiq
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Lnar said :
@IRONMUSIQ

You don't really seem to know what you're talking about.
You seem overly optimistic with this suggestion, even though the flaws are beyond transparent. The argument is :

This isn't worth developer time. The original game needs to be improved.
It's not a matter of just developing the game either, once it's in place, they're going to have their own dev team to cater/manage it once it's released - which imo, the man-hours would be better used towards developing osrs into the game that RS3 was meant to be.

And for ***** sake, stop sprouting this nonsense that DDM isn't for Pkers. It's literally a PVP themed world. People are meant to kill one another.

So your only argument is that there will be a dev team to this mode once released? I like to see where Jagex has said anything about that. Ironman mode didn't get its own dev team why shoud DDM?

PvP is an important aspect in DDM but I can't pk at all, never could. I'm a skiller, working together with PvM and PvP people in a group to thrive in this world. Without it, you cannot thrive in DDM.

11-Jun-2015 16:00:10

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The only way I'd play this would be if there was significantly increased xp rates. Stat resets by 7 levels is also kind of silly. I'd say all stats get rounded down to the nearest 10. Having to re-grind to unlock ice barrage every time I die is already going to be a huge pain. Us pkers absolutely hate grinding and unless there is a HUGE xp rate increase, I won't bother.

Stat resets should only occur if you die from another player, not an npc. Pkers need to be able to interrupt combat with NPC's and guards should be able to attack skulled players regardless of whether it is a single or multi combat zone.

Also will everyone be starting over like when 07 first came out? I think it should be new accounts and new banks.

But in all honesty I probably won't play this mode based on the current dev blog because grinding is one of the main turn offs of Runescape to me. Increased xp rates (I say at least 5x) would probably change my mind though.

11-Jun-2015 16:03:41 - Last edited on 11-Jun-2015 16:12:47 by P E A C E

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P E A C E said :
The only way I'd play this would be if there was significantly increased xp rates. Stat resets by 7 levels is also kind of silly. I'd say all stats get rounded down to the nearest 10. Having to re-grind to unlock ice barrage every time I die is already going to be a huge pain. Us pkers absolutely hate grinding and unless there is a HUGE xp rate increase, I won't bother.

Also will everyone be starting over like when 07 first came out? I hope so.

exactly give me 3x+ rate. Fall in to Win

11-Jun-2015 16:07:15

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Old Alec said :

Not everyone will have teams. Not every team will be able to always play together. This, is an extremely broken factor in this mode. Creating something that is almost exclusively dependent on other players/team is terrible. Think about the reactions people had when Dungeoneering was first coming out. Because of this simple factor, this game mode will fail.

All of your arguments are invalid due to the DDoS issue. Nothing will make someone want to continue playing after disconnecting and losing 100+ hours of grind/their banks. Yes, we may yet eventually improve our servers, but DDoS'ing is a thing that will never go away. As long as there is internet connection, there will be someone attempting to DDoS.

This mode is destined for failure. It was created solely with the vision of generating more money into the pockets of Jagex employees, hence, the reason is was so terribly thought out and so poorly received. Someone said it in a post on reddit, and I will repeat them:

It is not * [/quote][/quote]

That's the same for ironman mode (which is the only mode I play). Dying because of DDoS attack with your full guthan during a slayer task. This means we need to get a lucky at barrows again to get those 4 exact pieces back. Ironman mode still came through and it is awesome.

If you don't have a team, you either need to make one or strategize how to thrive without it.
When Dg just came out, you had a keyer. The guy given all the keys to to unlock the doors. Same goes with DDM, we have a skillers, PvM and PvP people, all doing their job to help the group thrive in this harsh environment.

11-Jun-2015 16:09:15

TrkizIobanje

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THEY CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT DDOS'ING! So lets just drop the whole thing with the servers being ****, until this community becomes less rag kids it won't get better. Fall in to Win

11-Jun-2015 16:12:10 - Last edited on 11-Jun-2015 16:12:38 by TrkizIobanje

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