RuneScape Forum Archive | Dev Blog: Deadman Mode

Nov

2014

Hypertrophic

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Copied from "JOY" on the first page, I completely agree:

Deadman Mode will divide our player base further, kill our current PvP, and offer highly punishing mechanics which will ultimately have players quit the game!

Dividing The Player Base:
We have the standard Runescape account and by bastardized popularization we introduced Ironman Mode, and the absurd Ironman Mode. Currently we don't have enough players to fill our worlds, or their content. Zeah is on its way! We can't afford to split our player base further.

Our Current PvP Is In Trouble:
PvP is currently no risk, no reward, and always being ddosed. If you introduce Deadman Mode and people leave our current PvP it will die out. Furthermore, Deadman Mode will become ddosed like current PvP.

Players WILL QUIT:
Let's transition perfectly into the ddos issue. Players will be punished to the point of no sympathy. All of their beloved work will be gone and so will their admiration for this game.

Do you really want to do this!? Just because Mat K said it was a cool idea on stream? Should we let the game as a whole suffer for the mistake of one person? Let's see, why is this familiar? Oh, right, Evolution of Combat and Mod Mark. Our game has quickly dropped from 50K to 40K player base. Our game has made a 10,000 USD PvP tournament to try to hype PvP. PvP is already in trouble as is all of our unfulfilled content. Please CANCEL this terrible update before it's too late. I get people are blinded by hype, but maybe they should take a second to consider the risks this update will bring.

11-Jun-2015 14:19:44

TrkizIobanje

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iron musiq, people want afk training. This game is GRIND-to-own, it's not like they can max their accounts 2277 with nmz, it's just combat. The problem is people like you who are ironmen and vote on things that others will enjoy thinking only of yourself. Vote yes to this so others may enjoy it. Geeze this community is so greedy, think about everyone not jsut YOUR needs/ wants Fall in to Win

11-Jun-2015 14:20:15

Oct

2014

Greenmusiq

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TrkizIobanje said :
If we are getting our stats lowered.... WE HAVE TO HAVE AN XP BOOST! If i get 99 whatever skill in deadman mode to just have to get 92-99 again regularly upon death means i got 150+ hours of extra grinding!

give us 3x xp or 1.5x xp, more pvp less grinding
THAT IS WHAT WE WANT
No, that is what YOU want.
If your team dies, your team has to do things over again. It's your team's fault to not have a good strategy or were reckless/careful.

11-Jun-2015 14:21:14

TrkizIobanje

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Greenmusiq said :
TrkizIobanje said :
If we are getting our stats lowered.... WE HAVE TO HAVE AN XP BOOST! If i get 99 whatever skill in deadman mode to just have to get 92-99 again regularly upon death means i got 150+ hours of extra grinding!

give us 3x xp or 1.5x xp, more pvp less grinding
THAT IS WHAT WE WANT
No, that is what YOU want.
If your team dies, your team has to do things over again. It's your team's fault to not have a good strategy or were reckless/careful.

OR...... I have things to do irl and I die once out of careless acts or being too aggressive whatever reason then am like.. hmm.. grind 60-67 str agaiin, or just go back and pk on my maxed main? Without any xp boosting deadman mode will lose players at an exponential rate due to people purely playing the game and dying. So let me rephrase what I said.

It's how it needs to be! Fall in to Win

11-Jun-2015 14:27:20

Oct

2014

Greenmusiq

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TrkizIobanje said :
iron musiq, people want afk training. This game is GRIND-to-own, it's not like they can max their accounts 2277 with nmz, it's just combat. The problem is people like you who are ironmen and vote on things that others will enjoy thinking only of yourself. Vote yes to this so others may enjoy it. Geeze this community is so greedy, think about everyone not jsut YOUR needs/ wants

"vote on things that others will enjoy thinking only of yourself. Vote yes to this so others may enjoy it. Geeze this community is so greedy"
You're contradicting yourself.
I want it to pass we I and my clan clan execute our prepared plan for DDM so we can all have fun. It is OUR "needs/wants"

11-Jun-2015 14:28:16

Misto

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Losing 7 lvls in every skill is waayyy to much. I can see people quitting really quick.

As others have said pkers hate training. SO if everytime they die they lose massive amounts of XP no one is going to play for long.

Only way i can see this working and actually being really fun is if XP is doubled or something.

11-Jun-2015 14:38:19

TrkizIobanje

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"vote on things that others will enjoy thinking only of yourself. Vote yes to this so others may enjoy it. Geeze this community is so greedy"
You're contradicting yourself.
I want it to pass we I and my clan clan execute our prepared plan for DDM so we can all have fun. It is OUR "needs/wants"[/quote]

Your head is think, but it's okay I brought my hammer. People will die. Clans will kill each other. Whether in the wilderness or on a deadman mode world. The oldschool team is giving US, their community, the decision to add an ENTIRELY separate PVP setting. NOW! Listen, Zeah is an expansion to the main game, the main worlds that everyone plays on. This will directly lessen the population on Gilenor and add it to Zeah this is, as far as we've heard, a PVM expansion. Deadman mode is our PVP expansion, offering what Zeah does to the PVM'ers and skillers, PVPer's get with Deadman mode. Fall in to Win

11-Jun-2015 14:39:09

TrkizIobanje

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And yes of course I want it to pass for EVERYONE, not just me. Fall in to Win

11-Jun-2015 14:41:57

Oct

2014

Greenmusiq

Posts: 58 Iron Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile

Hypertrophic said :

Dividing The Player Base:
We have the standard Runescape account and by bastardized popularization we introduced Ironman Mode, and the absurd Ironman Mode. Currently we don't have enough players to fill our worlds, or their content. Zeah is on its way! We can't afford to split our player base further.

Our Current PvP Is In Trouble:
PvP is currently no risk, no reward, and always being ddosed. If you introduce Deadman Mode and people leave our current PvP it will die out. Furthermore, Deadman Mode will become ddosed like current PvP.

Players WILL QUIT:
Let's transition perfectly into the ddos issue. Players will be punished to the point of no sympathy. All of their beloved work will be gone and so will their admiration for this game.

Do you really want to do this!? Just because Mat K said it was a cool idea on stream? Should we let the game as a whole suffer for the mistake of one person? Let's see, why is this familiar? Oh, right, Evolution of Combat and Mod Mark. Our game has quickly dropped from 50K to 40K player base. Our game has made a 10,000 USD PvP tournament to try to hype PvP. PvP is already in trouble as is all of our unfulfilled content.

What is wrong with ironman mode? How is it splitting up the community? You're not giving any reasonings.

DDM is a mode about strategy and teamwork, without it, you can't survive long. The limitless pking is essential to this game mode so you don't go in without a plan. If you're a pker in the main game, you mostly do it 1v1. You can't survive DDM alone. Either they adapt to the game mode and get a plan or they go back to w18 edgeville.

Server issues are for the nework team and not for osrs team.
This game mode will bring people back to the game because it's team based so they can rely on others and others rely on them.

11-Jun-2015 14:50:05

Lnar

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@IRONMUSIQ

How do they progress RC without NMZ? well, for one, they can go and mine pure ess. They can PVM for pure ess. ultimate ironman can still do construction without the fear of losing their materials while they train construction.

Deadman mode is a PKing mode. It's a mode wherein the masses have power and the solo players are under the mercy of those who have the privilege of others backing them up.

Adapt to a game that penalises a person for playing the game? ok.

you use these comparison of ironman mode being different to justify DDM, but what you don't seem to realise is that, again, like i've already mentioned, ironman mode is progressive by nature, it doesn't penalise people for playing the game. DDM however does, in fact, "your own progress" is determined by whether or not people take an interest in killing you or not. What kind of community do you think will thrive off DDM? what comes to mind imo is clans like JAJA, groups of self-righteous condescending 13 year old ******* who go around mobbing people and being toxic while they're at it.

yeah, this is exactly what the RS community needs.
Bring on the dev team, this is the where the future's at.
Full support!

11-Jun-2015 14:50:30 - Last edited on 11-Jun-2015 14:56:57 by Lnar

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