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Gielnik
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Why is the question basically "EOC GE or nothing"?
Why is something akin to an auction house not considered? Prices being set automatically by an algorithm is a horrible idea. There's no situation in which it would work well.

09-Jan-2015 23:06:25

Diggydug1

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Wnp said :

the game was first made intended to not have a bank at all. should we of stayed with that option or should we update certain things?


RuneScape 2 was never made without banks in mind. RS2=/=RSC and that was well before the game had hundreds of items an individual player had to account for.

09-Jan-2015 23:08:22

Wnp

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Diggydug1 said :
Wnp said :

the game was first made intended to not have a bank at all. should we of stayed with that option or should we update certain things?


RuneScape 2 was never made without banks in mind. RS2=/=RSC and that was well before the game had hundreds of items an individual player had to account for.

point being sometimes change is needed.

09-Jan-2015 23:10:42

Dangermouth
Sep Member 2018

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Sorry for the large number of posts: am reading some points and feel the need to address them. A lot of rather fallacious arguments here, I think, as well as a few good ideas.

From what I have seen and including my own personal view, automated trading is not considered wholly unwanted nor could it not have a valid place in the game.

The implementation, scope, and range of it do need to be worked at with a fine brush, however, because the original GE was (and still is) too blunt and can simply pigeonhole trades into one, and not necessarily the best, method.

What I would ask is that as a policy decision some clear demarcation is made between this game and the other or (as others have pointed out often) the distinction between the two may well blur to such an extent that this game loses out or people question the need for it.

Another thing to ask those who play to ask themselves is "Why do you play?" and "Why do you play this version of RS?". Because there is another if you want to play it in a way where you can get things relatively easily and once you join a clan (and then the whole world becomes silent because there's no chat - ...) then there is bound to be someone rich who can help you out with anything you might want.

Finally ... be innovative: don't just copy what someone else has done somewhere else - go create something new. That's probably wasted on many who don't have any imagination (perhaps there are too many of them in OSRS) but if you're not one of them and if you don't want to just follow every one else then recognise that if you want to be different it takes effort (but it pays back much more).

09-Jan-2015 23:13:19

Diggydug1

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Wnp said :
Diggydug1 said :
Wnp said :

the game was first made intended to not have a bank at all. should we of stayed with that option or should we update certain things?


RuneScape 2 was never made without banks in mind. RS2=/=RSC and that was well before the game had hundreds of items an individual player had to account for.

point being sometimes change is needed.


And sometimes it's not. RS2 was far more popular than RS3, and look at all that change.

Try pointing out the pros of the GE in terms of community, gameplay, and economics. Get a relevant discussion going instead of making vague points.

09-Jan-2015 23:13:39 - Last edited on 09-Jan-2015 23:14:30 by Diggydug1

Jelle654
Jul Member 2022

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Wnp said :
Jelle654 said :
Wnp said :
Diggydug1 said :
Wnp said :

I don't understand how ge makes the game easier. merching will be done regardless


Easier does not directly correlate to merching, easier is relative to how people acquire items which applies to training.

Every tradeable item in the game is accessible from a single location at a very set price. If that's not easier, what is?

and why is this bad for the game?


Because the game was not designed around this. The GE discourages people to play to game as it way intended. Where you either had to invest time in doing things yourself or cooperate with other player to achieve goals.

the game was first made intended to not have a bank at all. should we of stayed with that option or should we update certain things?


Banks with the ability to store items were introduced half a year after RuneScape was released. So most of the game was made with the existence of banks in this form in mind.

Meanwhile the horror that is the GE was introduced not because the game needed it, but because of the removal of free trade. Therefore there were less options and limited time to come up with a reasonable alternative for free trade. At the time there weren't really a lot of other options, were the effect it would have on the overall game were not considered carefully enough imho.

09-Jan-2015 23:13:57 - Last edited on 09-Jan-2015 23:15:37 by Jelle654

Foxing
Dec Member 2014

Foxing

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I never thought Id sound like my parents but.... the kids dont wanna do any work these days! Whats enjoyable about a video game is the difficulty and expansiveness... spending that extra five minutes running to ardy general store for your quest... having to seek things out from all areas of the game world.

What ever happened to having pride in DIY instead of simplifying everything just because you are lazy? Theres nothing wrong with trading... we always used runescape market forums and had no problem... remember what the ge did to seed prices, and similar items?

You can actually sell your guam leaves for 300 ea now and your apple and orange seeds for 1-2k**** comes out theyll be worth 9 gold each.

09-Jan-2015 23:17:55

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