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SpecialDylan

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Would the boss be able to be soloed on accounts such as pures with ease, or will it only be able to be killed on maxed accounts or teams? And will it be weak to range or melee? it doesn't make sense to be weak to magic because the fact that snakeskin is a type of range armour. If i can solo this with 99 defense hp and range I can see myself being here quite a lot. Looks good so far, can't wait!

25-Nov-2014 21:50:39

menacemenace

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ramamir 6 said :
NEZZY SHOULD BE THE 07 HELM , it is already lost in runescape 3, i hope not to lose it in 07 as the best helm

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Neit is a level 55 helmet that is only 50k… this shouldn't be the best strength helmet in the entire game, it's been nearly two years, it's time to progress, surprised it's taken this long to have a better melee helmet tbh.

It'll only be used in PvM, neit will remain the best helmet for PvP for a long time, until an equally cheap and better helm comes along.

25-Nov-2014 21:51:25

Slay Helm

Slay Helm

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SpecialDylan said :
Would the boss be able to be soloed on accounts such as pures with ease, or will it only be able to be killed on maxed accounts or teams? And will it be weak to range or melee? it doesn't make sense to be weak to magic because the fact that snakeskin is a type of range armour. If i can solo this with 99 defense hp and range I can see myself being here quite a lot. Looks good so far, can't wait!
Says that you will need atleast 2 different styles, so you can't just use range - but yes, high range will help. Also, don't expect to camp this on a pure - pures make their accounts to limit themselves so that they can PK. This is going to be a high level PvM boss.
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25-Nov-2014 21:54:21

Ferocire

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SpecialDylan said :
Would the boss be able to be soloed on accounts such as pures with ease, or will it only be able to be killed on maxed accounts or teams? And will it be weak to range or melee? it doesn't make sense to be weak to magic because the fact that snakeskin is a type of range armour. If i can solo this with 99 defense hp and range I can see myself being here quite a lot. Looks good so far, can't wait!

The boss is designed to be for solo play and they mentioned that one will need atleast 2 attack styles against it, so it's safe to say it's for all 3 combat styles and that you won't be able to just range it.

It might not make much sense for it to be weak to magic, but dragons can easily be maged as well. Blue dragons is how I got several of my mage levels at a lower level. Either case, it's important for mage to be viable at more bosses.


Unfortunately though, the current form of the helmet will make melee have the advantage against it if it provides immunity to the bosses' venom as well. Typical of jagex to always give the advantage to melee though.

EDIT: Thinking about it, the bias is very strong with this one. Jagex are offering rangers and mages poison weapons that are supposedly very potent..so what do they do?

They offer a melee item that makes the blowdart and toxic staff useless against them while making melee the best primary choice for the boss at the same time. Atleast they're not making any attempt to hide the favoritism, so could be worse I suppose.
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25-Nov-2014 21:58:14 - Last edited on 25-Nov-2014 22:12:08 by Ferocire

Avid Sparx

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Will the scales need to be ground up (ala blue dragon scales) in order to add them to AP++ to male antivenom?

Just wanna know if I should bring a mortar&pestle to that first trip ;) 'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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25-Nov-2014 21:59:51

menacemenace

menacemenace

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The helm is melee orientated and is of level 75 defense, therefore it will be and should be the best melee helm in the game.

The best helm in the game is going to have stats of the melee barrows brothers… if not it should be better, considering the jump of 5 levels.

For those who don't know, this helm has similar defensive stats to verac's helm/ torag's helm and the defensive stats are actually a little lower than these 2 helms, thus justifying the given best strength bonus helmet in the game at +5.

In order to have this offensive strength bonus, defence must be given up. If this was a purely defensive helmet, I would expect it's stats to be all between 60-70 and possibly the negative ranged/ mage attack bonuses to be reduced.

John has balanced the helmet very well, nothing needs to be changed. Lets not forget this is a level 75 defence helmet and *should be the best in the game*.

25-Nov-2014 22:01:09 - Last edited on 25-Nov-2014 22:06:29 by menacemenace

menacemenace

menacemenace

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Ferocire said :
SpecialDylan said :
Would the boss be able to be soloed on accounts such as pures with ease, or will it only be able to be killed on maxed accounts or teams? And will it be weak to range or melee? it doesn't make sense to be weak to magic because the fact that snakeskin is a type of range armour. If i can solo this with 99 defense hp and range I can see myself being here quite a lot. Looks good so far, can't wait!

The boss is designed to be for solo play and they mentioned that one will need atleast 2 attack styles against it, so it's safe to say it's for all 3 combat styles and that you won't be able to just range it.

It might not make much sense for it to be weak to magic, but dragons can easily be maged as well. Blue dragons is how I got several of my mage levels at a lower level. Either case, it's important for mage to be viable at more bosses.


Unfortunately though, the current form of the helmet will make melee have the advantage against it if it provides immunity to the bosses' venom as well. Typical of jagex to always give the advantage to melee though.

It is assumed, by the stats of the helmet, that we can easily see level 75 defence helmets for both magic and ranged to come to the game fairly soon. I would actually be expecting the ranged/ mage helmet equivalent of the 'Serpentine helmet' to come with the next batch of slayer updates through slayer monster bosses or from raid dungeons on the continent.

25-Nov-2014 22:04:37

menacemenace

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your pet cat said :
I LOVE it! I don't know where you (the OSRS staff) are pulling all the ideas for the game.. but a double thumbs up to all of you. Especially excited about the possibility of a Dragon Defender! :)

The dragon defender is something they could honestly poll with the next dev-blog tbh.

They just need to offer it to come from the warrior's guild and they could really just give us another 'cyclossus' style boss.

It doesn't need to be fancy or anything, would just be nice for the community to have it confirmed to be coming to the game and to have it be available from the warrior's guild.

Would also stop the 'dragon defender' spam in the twitch chat.

25-Nov-2014 22:09:17

lil garg

lil garg

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okay start talking about the dragon defender soon then i was counting on that this sucks u guys finally have a good idea and there we go lost by the community also the helm stats sucks i hope it wil look great with full bandos gear else nty

25-Nov-2014 22:20:33

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