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0urlasthope

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In case the lava dragons dont pass, we should make it to where you can tan red dragon hide on the lava, allowing you to craft the hides into bodies on the spot and stay there longer.

They could even take alchs for the bodies and stay a very long time.

20-Jan-2014 16:21:04

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I'm done with RS3...

Seeing how awesome updates RS2 is getting I just can't waste my time on RS3 anymore.

Glad to have you! RS3 has been going pretty much nowhere for quite some time, that's why I turned to this. The amount of updates and enthusiasm on here not only in the Devs, but players as well, is phenominal. This RS version has so much potential and I think this trend will continue for a long time.

I don't really see much of a future in current RS except those microtransaction updates that continuously happen. RS3 is entirely built on bonus xp, free xp, and sof lamps now and has been completely consumed by the whole pay-to-win mentality for me.

EDIT: As a matter of fact, I just read the news on current RS today and proves my point with microtransactions.

20-Jan-2014 16:22:24 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2014 16:46:32 by EllingerMain

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The change to +24 mage def on range shield is better. But +12 range att is far too much, the Chaotic Eagle Eye Kite was only +4 before eoc. It will undermine the zamorak book completely, everyone will just use these range/mage obby shields and rune defender. Gf everyone who spent 2-2.5m on zam book.

LOL complaining about a level 60 shield being better than a 1 def prayer book? The shield should be better, pures shouldn't be getting best equipment for any slot.

plus it is IMPOSSIBLE to lose your zammy book and it gives a +5 prayer bonus O_o

it will not lose value

20-Jan-2014 17:11:19

Philphish

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are revs going to have additional drops potentially added in the future? Just curious if they have a lack of unique weapon/armor drops for now because suitable replacements haven't been decided upon yet

also agree with this :

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Putting the revenants in the graveyard which is a single combat zone would suck... add a dungeon entrance there which leads to the revenant cave which is multicombat, the dungeon should be long and the revenants should be at the end of the dungeon to make escaping harder.

20-Jan-2014 17:27:00 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2014 17:28:52 by Philphish

Publix Stock

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The mage defende bonuses on the shields are too high. Jagex you need to realize something. In Castle wars...
The MAX mage attack bonus is 127 with 3a amulet.
The MAX mage defence bonus is 185.
The new shields will keep the max attack bonus the same, while the range shield will increase the max mage defence to 194. The mage shield will be superior to the mages' book becaue it offers just 3 attack bonus less, but you gain huge melee defence.
Not only does the shield provide the highest range attack bonus but it has the highest mage defence bonus. The mage shield..its nothing special, it just offers some defence bonuses while having some mage attack bonuses. IMO just make the damn shield have same stats as arcane and spectral. Stop making up random stats.

20-Jan-2014 17:41:21

Nac Nak
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Here are some adjusted stats for the new shields, I think as mid-tier equipment these not only are better suited but are more balanced in overall gameplay. Especially since ranged is a little OP in PVP atm.

Please consider these stats for the new 'mid-tier- shields instead:
_________________Attack_______________________Defence
________Stab_Slash_Crush_Magic_Range/_Stab_Slash_Crush_Magic_Range
Range___-12___-12__-12___-8____+5/___ 0____0____0____+17___+45

_________________Attack_______________________Defence
________Stab_Slash_Crush_Magic_Range/_Stab_Slash_Crush Magic Range
Magic____-8____-8____-8___+10__-12/__+45__+52__+43___+3_____0

Currently your Range shield has +32 magic defence, which is far too high, in fact it's higher than what the Spectral spirit shield had! I also don't think that the Range shield should be better than Zammy book for training (Zammy book also has no defence and isn't terribly cheap, also it's unsellable). Range simply needs an offhand that grants a nice magic defence without an offensive range penalty. Range already gets huge attack bonuses from everything; Melee gets most of its attack from weapons; Magic gets most of its attack from its armour; Range gets very high bonuses from both its armour and its weapons already. Keep in mind your +12 range attack is more like a +14 when switching from a rune kiteshield; a +17 when switching from a DFS; and a +22 when switching from a crystal shield.

The Magic shield with its current stats devalue the Mages' book by quite a bit. Not only will it lose its title of "Best in slot" for magic defence (which I'm ok with as long as it's by a smaller margin ex. my altered stats) from the Range shield by over twice as high of a bonus, but the magic shield has nearly as high of a magic attack and significantly higher magic defence as well. No magic shield has ever had higher magic defence than magic attack either! (Arcane/Farseer/Mages' book)

20-Jan-2014 17:45:57

Nac Nak
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Please consider these stats instead, you have hardly nerfed the stats with the recent change; -8 and -5 magic defence while still having huge offensive bonuses is not a fix, these things are still quite broken.

It feels like these are items from 2011 being crammed into a 2007 RS, look at other gear of the same class, not across classes, you cannot make the shields exactly like Obsidian shield because it is a melee shield and all classes have different values on their bonuses associated with them. O_o

I've been under the impression that not devaluing other pieces of content was a high priority for OSRS, so much so that you weren't willing to 'devalue' the likes of boots of lightness - a free item with no requirements - when you released graceful.

I'd like to see the same care taken into account when balacing these shields if possible. :/

20-Jan-2014 17:46:59 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2014 18:00:06 by Nac Nak

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Notice my shields keep zammy book relevant (The trade off for magic defence and range defence is less range attack), mages' book is still relevant (The trade off for melee defence is less magic attack and less magic defence; this shield does not need high magic defence!!!!).

Also notice DFS should still be considerably better in high-level situations like it should be, since it is a higher lvl item, unlike these supposed 'mid-tier' shields.

20-Jan-2014 17:52:50 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2014 18:00:36 by Nac Nak

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