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Witty Tank

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The kraken staff is honestly one of the worst ideas i've seen. It will probably max at ~25 with a mage pot at 99 mage at around 1k/cast cost, compared to the likes of a godspell (with charge, lvl 80) which can get to 30s or 33s with sot* and cost like 300gp less/cast, and before anyone says, i'd much prefer 5-8 more damage/cast than 3 extra inv spots (hell, only 2 with the mage pot needed for 25s with the kraken staff).
If you're going to bring it in, atleast make it decent and worth getting.

Also, could you imagine the PVP ragging? Dear god.

18-Jan-2014 16:37:15 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2014 16:58:47 by Witty Tank

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A few of the major issues/questions I had about this were:

1) By how much would you "beef up the drop tables of the Chaos Elemental and King Black Dragon"?

2) If you get noted resources on all the new wilderness resources it will just give way to huge amounts of those items entering the game and devaluing the resource a ton. I don't think they should be noted, maybe make it where per ore/log you mine or cut you have a 60% chance of receiving a noted ore in your inventory as well? Or something that isn't as economy changing.

3) It seems "low combat level" skillers are now at a disadvantage while skilling because there are no "low combat level" skilling methods available in this update. They are all for combat based accounts.

4) The loot bag is going to bring a huge influx of cash into the game defeating any previous money sinks because no longer will items be left on the ground to disappear. They will all be picked up, acting in a way similar to the gravestone.

5) I think there is going to be a serious amount of cash entering the game with the "untradeables converting to gold after 20 wild" and the "loot bag" and noted items and free alching.

6) Normal worlds should not be removed, just the number of revamped wilderness worlds need to be cut down so there are not an extreme amount of resources entering the game and devaluing the profit of normal skilling.

This is what I thought of when I read this. Please take these thoughts into account.

-Diane Meyer

18-Jan-2014 16:43:18

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Make a poll about removing pvp worlds. They are pointless.

Perhaps it's wiser to leave one PvP world?

Definitely not. There is currently only 1 out of 2 pvp worlds that very few people use, because the wilderness is currently dead. That world should be gone together with the even more dead one.

18-Jan-2014 16:48:48

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omg polllll old lesser + greater demon graphics please!!


and all other old graphic models!!

~CR0W
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yessss


I support. Please poll old graphics for demons, dragons, etc.


Yes*******hh thisssss ^=^........ WE want old school graphics give us older npc graphics!!!!!!! Especially that mini man in a devils costume aka imp ^=^. I would soooo love old npc graphics when can we get a poll for this already i dont like waiting for this kind of stuff =C.

18-Jan-2014 16:56:15

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omg polllll old lesser + greater demon graphics please!!


and all other old graphic models!!

~CR0W
3 Word Game , Invasion , Necroancy and combat Pets , Barrows expansion , Snow Ball Arena , Lock Down Server(s) , The Trade Island by CR0W and McGee , Clan Update And Max Levels . ~/Sig


yessss


I support. Please poll old graphics for demons, dragons, etc.


Yes*******hh thisssss ^=^........ WE want old school graphics give us older npc graphics!!!!!!! Especially that mini man in a devils costume aka imp ^=^. I would soooo love old npc graphics when can we get a poll for this already i dont like waiting for this kind of stuff =C.


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18-Jan-2014 16:58:06

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This update is appropriate for 2013 runescape, not 2007. Why hasn't GE come out in 2007? Why haven't you focused on releasing OLD runescape updates instead of adding new material to the game which makes more players quit? Please for the love of God, STOP with the updates. They harm the game. Bring back 2007's roots and stop making the game easy to play for people who play it.

Also, I saw this question in this Dev Blog.

Question: Should we add three new rune rocks to the Ice Plateau?

Answer: Why would you? What does adding three new rune rocks to the game which have not been there before do to the game? It eliminates the "nostalgia" feel that players have had since they started playing 2007 runescape in Feb 2013.


Lol who plays for nostalgia these days

Actually if you've done the poll that was "About the Player" you'd of known already that Nostalgia was actually one of the top reasons that people play this game..

18-Jan-2014 17:00:12

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I like the idea of the new staff, I don't like the enormous rune cost. Essentially you're making people spend 3x as much to cast their spell while holding this expensive staff, for the benefit that they can be on lunars. Cost efficiency is the problem with magic right now, that's one reason why there's no point to be on a spellbook other than lunars while doing slayer. If the staff were to be released right now, it would be dead content.

The point of this staff should be create a magic item that has a high upfront cost, but reduces the variable cost so that combat with magic is actually viable.

Do this comparison with me: Slayer staff vs. New Staff. At level 75 probably through the low 80s, they both hit 17-18ish damage. (If I recall, slayer dart hits 15-20 on a linear curve from level 55 to 99). As you approach 99, the new staff can hit 22, 2 damage more than the slayer dart. Even if you could use slayer dart with lunars, even if the new staff consumed only one death rune, this is clearly dead content. Sure, with those assumptions it's a marginal improvement, but it's not enough to make anyone think "I'm going to train magic with combat."

Some possible solutions: First and foremost, reduce the cost significantly. In my opinion, chaos/death runes already have enough demand. Perhaps make the staff consume underused runes, like cosmic/body/soul.

Secondly, improve the damage. It's a single area attack with no effect, why can't it hit as much as ice barrage at level 99 magic? I'd say make the staff start at ~20 damage at level 75, and grow to ~30 at 99.


On another note, please be careful when deciding what items to include on the new drop tables. Don't do another bounty hunter where portions of the main game's economy was destroyed from lack of thought. (I was ignored when I made a myriad of posts back then regarding how infinity/dragon full helms spawning into the game was a horrible idea).

18-Jan-2014 17:06:21 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2014 17:07:36 by UncleTuggles

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omg polllll old lesser + greater demon graphics please!!


and all other old graphic models!!

~CR0W
3 Word Game , Invasion , Necroancy and combat Pets , Barrows expansion , Snow Ball Arena , Lock Down Server(s) , The Trade Island by CR0W and McGee , Clan Update And Max Levels . ~/Sig


yessss


I support. Please poll old graphics for demons, dragons, etc.


THISSSSS

I paniced when i saw the old greater demon on the dev blog, so nice


What is it with you nostalgia freaks? Stop living in the past, this is a new Runescape game where we can have new stuff, most of us want HD graphics never mind ugly ass 2006 graphics!


Are you kidding me? HD Graphics are ugly; I want the old 2006 monster graphics back.


I agree and not just that but the poll that was "About the Players" nostalgia did come near the very top. Dont you think they'd sooner or later poll things that are kinda about nostalgia. Im not saying they have to change things from 2007 to 2006 in an instance, Im just saying it would be nice to see a start. I was thinking they could start out with the old school graphics of monsters and npcs, attackable and non-attackable npc*. That would be soooooo kool i think anyways ^=^ =}.

18-Jan-2014 17:09:31

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