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Mauhur
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Dilbert2001 said :
Mauhur said :


Casual players like me stand no chance against hardcore xp grinders who can dedicate vast amounts of time to gaming alone. Guaranteed lamp purchases like this just add more dirt atop the grave of RS's competitive scene. Really, I'm just playing the game for fun and to satisfy my own sense of accomplishment (even if that means partaking in Treasure Hunter).

Thankfully, you guys haven't taken to selling items with top tier stats via Treasure Hunter or these promo packages. Mark my words, the day you do so will be the day RS will begin to wither until it dies and your company will perish with it. Please do not go down this path and consider more ethical moneymaking methods.


Sorry you just need to adapt to the mentality of modern causal gamers. XP and levels are not longer the ultimate measurement of progression. True causal gamers don't spend 10 years to get a couple of skills to level 99. That's why we have other non-xp specific Achievements as well as path of progressions like MQC. TH can't give them a MQC or max RuneScores no matter how many TH keys they buy.

On the other hand, Jagex is already selling items with top tier stats via Bond. Don't pretend you don't see them doing it for 7 years in RS3 and 6 years in OSRS already. :D


Lol, what do you mean by true casual gamer? I play other games and do other things besides playing Runescape 3 all day. Your suggestion that I "adapt" to the mentality of the modern casual gamer is absurd. I am quite aware there are other progression paths and I'm getting really close to having a Quest Cape of my own. Also, I'm deliberately putting off getting my first 99 until I've reach a bunch of my other personal goals first.

Your citing of Bonds as Jagex's method of selling top tier equipment is not what I'm getting at. What I'm saying is Jagex shouldn't sell top tier gear directly to players.

23-Aug-2019 19:05:53 - Last edited on 23-Aug-2019 19:06:16 by Mauhur

Mauhur
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Draco Burnz said :
Dilbert2001 said :


Sorry you just need to adapt to the mentality of modern causal gamers. XP and levels are not longer the ultimate measurement of progression. True causal gamers don't spend 10 years to get a couple of skills to level 99. That's why we have other non-xp specific Achievements as well as path of progressions like MQC. TH can't give them a MQC or max RuneScores no matter how many TH keys they buy.

On the other hand, Jagex is already selling items with top tier stats via Bond. Don't pretend you don't see them doing it for 7 years in RS3 and 6 years in OSRS already. :D


Exactly.

If you want that old timely style of rs gaming, id suggest giving osrs a go.


Where did I say I liked that old style of RS gaming, Draco? OSRS is more of the same to me as far as the high scores are concerned. That's the territory of hardcore grinders. No way I'm wasting my time doing that. Besides, I want to have fun when I play games. Grinding for a top place on a RS high score board isn't fun to me.

23-Aug-2019 19:09:26

Dilbert2001
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Mauhur said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Mauhur said :


Casual players like me stand no chance against hardcore xp grinders who can dedicate vast amounts of time to gaming alone. Guaranteed lamp purchases like this just add more dirt atop the grave of RS's competitive scene. Really, I'm just playing the game for fun and to satisfy my own sense of accomplishment (even if that means partaking in Treasure Hunter).


Sorry you just need to adapt to the mentality of modern causal gamers. XP and levels are not longer the ultimate measurement of progression. True causal gamers don't spend 10 years to get a couple of skills to level 99. That's why we have other non-xp specific Achievements as well as path of progressions like MQC. TH can't give them a MQC or max RuneScores no matter how many TH keys they buy.

On the other hand, Jagex is already selling items with top tier stats via Bond. Don't pretend you don't see them doing it for 7 years in RS3 and 6 years in OSRS already. :D


Lol, what do you mean by true casual gamer? I play other games and do other things besides playing Runescape 3 all day. Your suggestion that I "adapt" to the mentality of the modern casual gamer is absurd. I am quite aware there are other progression paths and I'm getting really close to having a Quest Cape of my own. Also, I'm deliberately putting off getting my first 99 until I've reach a bunch of my other personal goals first.

Your citing of Bonds as Jagex's method of selling top tier equipment is not what I'm getting at.


You know there are alternative progression path other than xp/levels then you should know the others know it is absurd xp is not the only thing in this game.

You know you can buy bond and get top tier gear since 2012 then you know Jagex has been selling top tier gear since 2012 regardless you are willfully blind.

23-Aug-2019 20:24:19

Rossmallo

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So they're just abandoning ANY pretense of this not being direct EXP purchasing, huh.

Also, still hilarious to see people trotting out the whole "Go to OSRS" argument. You do know what'll happen if too many people migrate, right?

Only a matter of time before the infection spreads to OSRS, and the people who say "Don't like it, go there" are only serving to hasten it.
Fullblown non-playing lurker since 26/06/17. May come back if both the devs and the MTX team get their bloody act together.

23-Aug-2019 23:10:06

Draco Burnz
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Mauhur said :


Where did I say I liked that old style of RS gaming, Draco? OSRS is more of the same to me as far as the high scores are concerned. That's the territory of hardcore grinders. No way I'm wasting my time doing that. Besides, I want to have fun when I play games. Grinding for a top place on a RS high score board isn't fun to me.


Never said you did.

So plz don't put words in my mouth.
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24-Aug-2019 01:10:58

Mauhur
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@Dilbert
Yea, I suppose I was being a little too loud about xp gains. However, it was because I'm sick of those elitists lording it over everybody else.

However, I still stand by my point about Bonds. Willfully blind you say? Quite obviously you are not aware of the aggressive microtransactions Korean and Chinese MMOs employ. (Don't get me started on Asian mobile games!) Granted, consumers over there pay hard cash to skip grind and buy top tier gear directly because real life is already a grind for workers over there. Still doesn't excuse their tin ear those companies have to the demands of the Western market though.

Yes, Bonds can be used to pay for the best gear. However, if I were from the Eastern market I'd prefer to buy the gear directly from Jagex instead of dealing with other players. To my knowledge, Jagex does not employ such a cash shop. (Though the Mahjarrat Aura and the Wicked Pouch do come close.) I hope you see where I'm coming from here, Dilbert.

Edit: Dang it. Still haven't mastered the art of snipping quotes on here.

24-Aug-2019 02:46:19 - Last edited on 24-Aug-2019 02:52:50 by Mauhur

Mauhur
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Draco Burnz said :
Mauhur said :


Where did I say I liked that old style of RS gaming, Draco? OSRS is more of the same to me as far as the high scores are concerned. That's the territory of hardcore grinders. No way I'm wasting my time doing that. Besides, I want to have fun when I play games. Grinding for a top place on a RS high score board isn't fun to me.


Never said you did.

So plz don't put words in my mouth.


That response you gave following Dilbert's seemed to imply that. If I've misunderstood then I apologize.

24-Aug-2019 02:48:20

Mauhur
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Rossmallo said :
So they're just abandoning ANY pretense of this not being direct EXP purchasing, huh.

Also, still hilarious to see people trotting out the whole "Go to OSRS" argument. You do know what'll happen if too many people migrate, right?

Only a matter of time before the infection spreads to OSRS, and the people who say "Don't like it, go there" are only serving to hasten it.


Yea, I'm sick of people saying we should migrate to OSRS if we don't like RS3's direction. Let's not forget OSRS is still owned and operated by Jagex. MTX might not be there, but that doesn't mean they'll be inclined to listen perfectly. The backlash to recent polling results is a case in point. Already I'm hearing dark mutterings about things not being right with OSRS's direction at the moment.

24-Aug-2019 02:51:23

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