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UrekMazino
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Wow, moved the goal post backward this time, you were talking about what are considered to be adverts whose target audience are kids back to kids and gaming, of course the COPPA will mention nothing about it since it doesn't cover such a wide topic.

You made a really nice 180 pulling the discussion back to the bill when you couldn't respond, exactly as I predicted.
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13-May-2019 03:13:03

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
Wow, moved the goal post backward this time, you were talking about what are considered to be adverts whose target audience are kids back to kids and gaming, of course the COPPA will mention nothing about it since it doesn't cover such a wide topic.

You made a really nice 180 pulling the discussion back to the bill when you couldn't respond, exactly as I predicted.


The Protecting Children From Abusive Games Act will use COPPA as a guildeline for determining what games are targeting children:

"Games targeted at those under the age of 18.
• This would be determined by subject matter, visual content, and other indicators
similar to those used to determine applicability of the Children’s Online Privacy
Protection Act (COPPA)"


That's the goalpost Senator Hawley set all the time. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

13-May-2019 03:20:34

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Yes yes, well done, you've changed to subject back to the original one that this thread opened with so that you don't have to address the other topic (heavily related) that is being discussed in page 4. °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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14-May-2019 16:27:06

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UrekMazino said :
Yes yes, well done, you've changed to subject back to the original one that this thread opened with so that you don't have to address the other topic (heavily related) that is being discussed in page 4.


No point to go in circle with you. I am going through the proper channel very soon. Have a nice day. :)

14-May-2019 18:36:55

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Meanwhile, real world analysts from different sectors said zero chance this bill will pass:

https://venturebeat.com/2019/05/13/zero-chance-it-passes-game-analysts-break-down-senators-anti-loot-box-bill/

Realistically, Congress simply cannot legislate against pay-to-win, where a game is competitive and people purchase better weapons, gear, etc. That’s like legislating against faster cars, nicer handbags, whatever.

Remember, it took Governmor Arnold the Terminator 6 years to force GTA to put on a "M" rating on GTA, there is no chance for the USA government who can't even agree on a budget to terminate MTX in video game. :D :D :D

Besides, as Superdata and Newzoo indicated, even when the governments was going to act on MTX, the industry will self-regulate much faster. Don't forget the Bill call for FTC, not the governments, to adjudicate the cases... and we should all know now FTC is pro self-regulation, and pro-ESRB already. :)

14-May-2019 19:04:11

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
Meanwhile, real world analysts from different sectors said zero chance this bill will pass:

https://venturebeat.com/2019/05/13/zero-chance-it-passes-game-analysts-break-down-senators-anti-loot-box-bill/

Realistically, Congress simply cannot legislate against pay-to-win, where a game is competitive and people purchase better weapons, gear, etc. That’s like legislating against faster cars, nicer handbags, whatever.

Remember, it took Governmor Arnold the Terminator 6 years to force GTA to put on a "M" rating on GTA, there is no chance for the USA government who can't even agree on a budget to terminate MTX in video game. :D :D :D

Besides, as Superdata and Newzoo indicated, even when the governments was going to act on MTX, the industry will self-regulate much faster. Don't forget the Bill call for FTC, not the governments, to adjudicate the cases... and we should all know now FTC is pro self-regulation, and pro-ESRB already. :)

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15-May-2019 03:24:22

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Oh great! Of course things don't happen or nobody even know if it will happens like the end of the world
doesn't matter
.

That's why it is business as usual,
and profits as usual
for all multiplayer game developers with all kinds of MTX they like.

Not just only nobody except a few hardcore anti-MTX thinks that bill will have a chance, most others don't even want that bill because even by a miracle of a century it sneaked through, it would only mean game developers would be all moving their business off Missouri or even USA. That would only mean the rich Asian gaming businessmen are getting even richer, leaving all the jobless American game developer staff ranting in the forums. :D

This gamer gave very insightful smart comments on why true gamers, that means the ones who actually play the games, absolutely hate that bill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJQGspecnmE

15-May-2019 05:29:31

UrekMazino
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People are talking about not because they believe it will be the panacea to the MTX problem, but rather because it's finally being discussed by the big players, the US.

Business as usual? Is that why ESA is scrambling to get someone to convince everyone that loot boxes is not gambling? The same way they did in Hawaii?

Ah yea, I guess hardcore lobbying 24/7 for your most profitable money making method is business as usual, huh.
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16-May-2019 04:59:34

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
People are talking about not because they believe it will be the panacea to the MTX problem, but rather because it's finally being discussed by the big players, the US.

Business as usual? Is that why ESA is scrambling to get someone to convince everyone that loot boxes is not gambling? The same way they did in Hawaii?

Ah yea, I guess hardcore lobbying 24/7 for your most profitable money making method is business as usual, huh.


What "people" are taking about? What MTX problems are being discussed by the "big player, the US"? It is just one politicians in the one state of the USA, and the "people" including not just the business, financial and commercial sectors but all the CONSUMERS - the players questioned that "bill".

ESA has done nothing. All alone they said nothing about MTX at all. They only mentioned loot boxes is not gambling. Show where is the 24/7 "lobbing" please. :D :D :D

Even bringing up the Hawaii loot bill that not only DOA but also laughably got changed to a retail contest bill which also failed miserably is a real good joke. The failed "lobbying" were the ones who rally for UK and White House petitions... but uh oh!!! We all knew they all vanished like dew under the sunlight. :D :D :D

16-May-2019 18:10:02

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