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Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Ashlin107 said :
Yes it was a few years ago that RS was advertised on Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon. But RS hasn't changed much tone wise since then. It's still the same medieval fantasy game although be it with a few updates for better or for worse.

Also I never said GTA or COD didn't do Holiday events. As a matter of fact I said the exact opposite I acknowledged they fact they exist in the very first sentence of my post. You'd know this if you actually read it.

All I said was their events don't feature you trying to say save Christmas. All they do is place a few holiday themed items through out the game and call it day.

As for Nickelodeon city and the Nickelodeon Blimp in GTA. You do realise those are made by Modders right? As in not made by anyone at Nickelodeon or the developers of GTA. A modder can make what ever they want for games should said games support mods.

So what are you trying to say? Just because some adults like Nickelodeon they are aiming at adults with their shows? Great logic there. To know what goes on in that head of yours.

Read the COPPA which the Bill will use as a guideline. It refers to child avatar and models and such. It has no restriction to where they adverstise. Besides, even Disney Channel can show adult content and they are doing a lot of that:

https://onemillionmoms.com/current-campaigns/disney-channel-is-promoting-more-adult-content/

When their content creators make childish content and their play engage in a game, of course that game (hint: GTA) has and is aimed for children players. That's obvious.

So adults can't save Christmas? Look, even Obama put up his Santa costume to save Christmas.

11-May-2019 18:13:16

Aug

2023

UrekMazino

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Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Good thing the person in your example is not doing that at all!

What person? I said the people, not person, who tried to spread fake information. I don't know them in real life at all. Do you know them? How do you know "that person" is not doing whatever?

The good thing is even the article OP quoted actually mentioned:

"The bill would specifically target games geared towards children, as determined by their subject matter, visual content, and other indicators."

Does RS3 look like a game with childish content, cartoonish graphics among other indicators to target kids to buy pay-to-win MTX like bond? Uh Oh!!! Absolutely not. RS3 doesn't even have childish interface, graphics and game controls for kids.

yes

Sorry you think RS3 is cartoonist but maybe others don't.

They are going to upgrade the RS3 graphics anyway. Perhaps 3D characters look more mature. Not that sure about the bald headed, bearded funny men in green shirts outside RS3 target little kids though.

Not an opinion, its a fact that rs3 is a game aimed at a younger audience.

Please show source of your fact.

When you give the greedy merchant a rotten pie, the screen is turned away to protect the children's innocent eyes from seeing the abhorrent event taking place.

RS was playable on Miniclip at one point, and we all know the target audience of Miniclip. °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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12-May-2019 02:39:04

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Good thing the person in your example is not doing that at all!

What person? I said the people, not person, who tried to spread fake information. I don't know them in real life at all. Do you know them? How do you know "that person" is not doing whatever?

The good thing is even the article OP quoted actually mentioned:

"The bill would specifically target games geared towards children, as determined by their subject matter, visual content, and other indicators."

Does RS3 look like a game with childish content, cartoonish graphics among other indicators to target kids to buy pay-to-win MTX like bond? Uh Oh!!! Absolutely not. RS3 doesn't even have childish interface, graphics and game controls for kids.

yes

Sorry you think RS3 is cartoonist but maybe others don't.

They are going to upgrade the RS3 graphics anyway. Perhaps 3D characters look more mature. Not that sure about the bald headed, bearded funny men in green shirts outside RS3 target little kids though.

Not an opinion, its a fact that rs3 is a game aimed at a younger audience.

Please show source of your fact.

When you give the greedy merchant a rotten pie, the screen is turned away to protect the children's innocent eyes from seeing the abhorrent event taking place.

RS was playable on Miniclip at one point, and we all know the target audience of Miniclip.

Is RS playable on Miniclip now? If not then the fact is RS doesn't target the "audience" Miniclip targets now.

12-May-2019 04:55:41

Aug

2023

UrekMazino

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Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Good thing the person in your example is not doing that at all!

What person? I said the people, not person, who tried to spread fake information. I don't know them in real life at all. Do you know them? How do you know "that person" is not doing whatever?

The good thing is even the article OP quoted actually mentioned:

"The bill would specifically target games geared towards children, as determined by their subject matter, visual content, and other indicators."

Does RS3 look like a game with childish content, cartoonish graphics among other indicators to target kids to buy pay-to-win MTX like bond? Uh Oh!!! Absolutely not. RS3 doesn't even have childish interface, graphics and game controls for kids.

yes

Sorry you think RS3 is cartoonist but maybe others don't.

They are going to upgrade the RS3 graphics anyway. Perhaps 3D characters look more mature. Not that sure about the bald headed, bearded funny men in green shirts outside RS3 target little kids though.

Not an opinion, its a fact that rs3 is a game aimed at a younger audience.

Please show source of your fact.

When you give the greedy merchant a rotten pie, the screen is turned away to protect the children's innocent eyes from seeing the abhorrent event taking place.

RS

was

playable on Miniclip at one point, and we all know the target audience of Miniclip.

Is RS playable on Miniclip now? If not then the fact is RS doesn't target the "audience" Miniclip targets now.

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12-May-2019 08:05:16

Ashlin107

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It's clear who you are targeting if you advertise. As you're not going to advertise a game that teaches you how to count during Game of Thrones for instance. You could if you wanted to but you wouldn't sell as many as if you put that game during Dora the explorer.

I see you're also moving goal posts as to what could be considered "for kids". So you're saying Mario isn't for kids because Mario is an adult? That's laughable to say the least.

As for the Disney channel having adult content. Well the show mentioned in that article is still aimed at kids it's even won some awards in the kids show category. Plus kids shows having some mature themes isn't new. But like in RS such themes are done in a way that it would go over kids heads.

As for the Nickelodeon mods in GTA. So you're saying just because a few modders (who most likely aren't kids themselves) have made a few Nickelodeon themed mods it means GTA is for kids?

So let me get this straight you believe GTA a game that contains high levels of violence, nudity, drug use among other adult themes is for kids but RS which contains virtually none of those isn't? Wtf are you smoking?

As for adults not being able to save Christmas. Well going on an adventure with Santa to help him deliver presents certainly isn't something adults dream of doing. Most adults don't even believe in Santa. The statement below is false.
The statement above is true.

12-May-2019 10:20:24

Aug

2023

UrekMazino

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Ashlin107 said :
It's clear who you are targeting if you advertise. As you're not going to advertise a game that teaches you how to count during Game of Thrones for instance. You could if you wanted to but you wouldn't sell as many as if you put that game during Dora the explorer.

I see you're also moving goal posts as to what could be considered "for kids". So you're saying Mario isn't for kids because Mario is an adult? That's laughable to say the least.

As for the Disney channel having adult content. Well the show mentioned in that article is still aimed at kids it's even won some awards in the kids show category. Plus kids shows having some mature themes isn't new. But like in RS such themes are done in a way that it would go over kids heads.

As for the Nickelodeon mods in GTA. So you're saying just because a few modders (who most likely aren't kids themselves) have made a few Nickelodeon themed mods it means GTA is for kids?

So let me get this straight you believe GTA a game that contains high levels of violence, nudity, drug use among other adult themes is for kids but RS which contains virtually none of those isn't? Wtf are you smoking?

As for adults not being able to save Christmas. Well going on an adventure with Santa to help him deliver presents certainly isn't something adults dream of doing. Most adults don't even believe in Santa.
Slam dunked. He either won't reply because he can't or he'll reply with something completely irrelevant. °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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12-May-2019 17:18:54

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Good thing the person in your example is not doing that at all!

What person? I said the people, not person, who tried to spread fake information. I don't know them in real life at all. Do you know them? How do you know "that person" is not doing whatever?

"The bill would specifically target games geared towards children, as determined by their subject matter, visual content, and other indicators."

Does RS3 look like a game with childish content, cartoonish graphics among other indicators to target kids to buy pay-to-win MTX like bond? Uh Oh!!! Absolutely not. RS3 doesn't even have childish interface, graphics and game controls for kids.

yes

Sorry you think RS3 is cartoonist but maybe others don't.

They are going to upgrade the RS3 graphics anyway. Perhaps 3D characters look more mature. Not that sure about the bald headed, bearded funny men in green shirts outside RS3 target little kids though.

Not an opinion, its a fact that rs3 is a game aimed at a younger audience.

Please show source of your fact.

When you give the greedy merchant a rotten pie, the screen is turned away to protect the children's innocent eyes from seeing the abhorrent event taking place.

RS

was

playable on Miniclip at one point, and we all know the target audience of Miniclip.

Is RS playable on Miniclip now? If not then th [/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]

So was George Bush the USA president but he is not. So what?

12-May-2019 17:36:14

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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UrekMazino said :
Ashlin107 said :
It's clear who you are targeting if you advertise. As you're not going to advertise a game that teaches you how to count during Game of Thrones for instance. You could if you wanted to but you wouldn't sell as many as if you put that game during Dora the explorer.

I see you're also moving goal posts as to what could be considered "for kids". So you're saying Mario isn't for kids because Mario is an adult? That's laughable to say the least.

As for the Disney channel having adult content. Well the show mentioned in that article is still aimed at kids it's even won some awards in the kids show category. Plus kids shows having some mature themes isn't new. But like in RS such themes are done in a way that it would go over kids heads.

As for the Nickelodeon mods in GTA. So you're saying just because a few modders (who most likely aren't kids themselves) have made a few Nickelodeon themed mods it means GTA is for kids?

So let me get this straight you believe GTA a game that contains high levels of violence, nudity, drug use among other adult themes is for kids but RS which contains virtually none of those isn't? Wtf are you smoking?

As for adults not being able to save Christmas. Well going on an adventure with Santa to help him deliver presents certainly isn't something adults dream of doing. Most adults don't even believe in Santa.
Slam dunked. He either won't reply because he can't or he'll reply with something completely irrelevant.

What? Do I have to reply to every post every hour?

12-May-2019 17:37:43

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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From the "Protecting Children From Abusive Game Act", they clearly propose to usethe COPPA defintion:

Games targeted at those under the age of 18.
• This would be determined by subject matter, visual content, and other indicators
similar to those used to determine applicability of the Children’s Online Privacy
Protection Act (COPPA)

And from COPPA:

A Web site that is primarily directed to children should have AT LEAST TWO of the following
three factors present: Subject Matter, Presentation, and Interactivity. If a site is directed to a
mixed audience, adults and children, but has a designated children’s area that is “primarily
directed to children 12 and under” within the same URL, you should examine the children’s area
to determine whether the site is “primarily directed to children 12 and under.”
Many times, you should be able to tell from the home page whether the site is primarily directed
to children. (The term home page refers to the main web page for a business, organization,
person and is often labeled as such on the screen.) But you may need to view other pages,
indexes, or a site map if one is provided.
Subject Matter:
subject matter that is appealing to children (e.g., kids’ jokes, music, kids’ games,
video/computer games, children’s tv shows or stars, cartoon characters, sports, stories,
toys, children’s books, fantasy, children’s arts and crafts, pets, products primarily
purchased or consumed by kids like snack food or cereal)
Presentation:
a. language of the Web site such as language that is simple enough to be
understandable to children 12 and under; short, colorful descriptions; slang and pop
culture phrases (e.g., a kids’ site may be identified by such language as “kids only,”
“fun,” “free stuff,” “whatever,” “cool,” “duh,” “games,” “Ask your parents....” etc.)

12-May-2019 17:44:12

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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b. whether the Web site uses visual content appealing to children (animated
characters, bold or fast-moving graphics, or bright and vibrant colors
c. use of host characters (often a character property used offline, on television, in
movies, or comics or books)
d. the age of the models portrayed on the Web site (using children as models)
e. whether advertising appearing on the Web site is directed to children under 13 (e.g.,
ads for products primarily purchased or consumed by kids, or ads that are presented
in such a way that they appear to be directed to children)
f. audio content appealing to children (e.g., simple or popular tunes or songs, cartoon
voices, child-like noises and sound effects)

https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/rules/children%E2%80%99s-online-privacy-protection-rule-coppa/coppasurvey.pdf

That's the FTC's official COPPA. They never said anything about Cartoon Network, Santa Claus, Easter Bunny etc. In fact, none of these are advertised on Jagex's website whatsoever. They never made any references to things like "kids only" or "ask your parents". They never used underage models to advertise their games.

12-May-2019 17:48:41

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