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Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
What? Its not part of the law
yet
. All regulations had to go through the same process. What is your point?

The only people crying are EA and other greedy AAA game devs who's unethical cash grabbing money maker is under threat of governmental regulations.

What? How can the ukparliament.tv talk shows become USA Laws?

Oh! Perhaps it would have a chance to happen when Prince Harry became the President of the USA. :D :D :D

24-Jun-2019 18:06:57 - Last edited on 24-Jun-2019 18:07:17 by Dilbert2001

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Dilbert2001 said :


Sorry to terribly disappoint you. For the record, The US Congress said Federal Bill S1629 - Protecting Children Against Abusive Games Act falls under the Commerce policy area. Games of course are commerce, e-commerce if you have to be really picky. Selling pixels of course are legitimate commerce. :D

Too bad if you don't agree but it is useless because you are not THE US CONGRESS. :)

Pleased to announce that the "commerce committee" has not determined that lootboxes are in fact commerce.

Furthermore, the bill has been "presented" to the commerce committee. Which is, of course completely reasonable, because y'all claim mtx is commerce... maybe let the commerce committee make a determination in regards to the bill before claiming victory.

The bill was also presented to the Transport Committee, and runescape IS NOT a bus...

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The term e commerce was around long long before mtx was... so.. no. The term e commerce was not created to define mtx.

e commerce is ACTUAL business conducted over the internet. Ebay is e commerce. Irl casinos are not commerce. Online casinos are not e commerce. Lootboxes have elements of gambling and is not commerce. And I coMpletely support and approve of the commerce committee determining what about mtx is, or isnt commerce, and which elements of mtx is gambling, if any*

Runescape membership is e commerce. Its like purchasing a ticket to a movie, or purchasing a ticket to a show online... Or even purchasing an mp3. Mtx is something different.

When u purchase rs membership ya know exactly what you're getting and exactly how much you're paying for it. Ya obviously can't resell the rs membership, but it is consumed at the moment of purchase... And similar to concert tickets, if u buy the rs membership and don't go to the show, or don't play rs, the ticket and membership are used up, consumed and non refundable. Skillet? Skill no.

So much moot.

25-Jun-2019 08:23:51 - Last edited on 25-Jun-2019 09:08:41 by Never RIP

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Silly Dilly, U too are not the Congress or commerce committee.

For all u know the commerce committee may determine that mtx is gambling. And if y'all don't have a license to host a gambling venue, the money acquired through the practice of mtx was actually stolen. And criminal charges could follow.

As stated by u, the law does not accept nonsense. And ignorance is not a defence.

Keep on standing up behind the might of USA to claim victory... but r u completely sure the mighty USA isn't coming after mtx? Skillet? Skill no.

So much moot.

25-Jun-2019 09:28:20 - Last edited on 25-Jun-2019 09:36:26 by Never RIP

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Uh Oh! Somebody doesn't seem to realize the US Congress is not the Barney and the Backyard Gang. They don't throw all the >9000 bills submitted every year around different areas and hope they stick somewhere.

When there is nothing about gambling and health issues in the Bill they won't even talk about it. Likewise, when there is nothing about penalizing John and Jane Does 1 - 100 for disrupting and damaging a game business in the Bill, the Congress won't discuss about it neither.

It is up to the companies themselves to take actions against the John and Jane Does to protect their business, not the Law because it doesn't call for it. Likewise, it is up to the business to take actions against their own MTX products to protect their revenues and profits because not only the government doesn't call for it, no real world consumers called for it neither. :D

In fact, that's what laissez-faire is, not that Barney and the Backyard Gang, or John and Jane Does 1-100 in Purple Skin can change. :D

25-Jun-2019 16:48:04

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For someone to claim they are completely innocent u sure do mount a solid defence. Feel guilty?

The bill is to protect children against such games. Rs is an adults game. Quit being so defensive. The bill isn't even talking about rs.

Maybe they're evidence gathering? And y'all are like ""that's not us!" And investigator is like "who are u?" And y'all like "we're not the guys you're looking for!" Skillet? Skill no.

So much moot.

26-Jun-2019 01:28:34

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Read all the posts, especially mine in this thread first.

All along, I said Jagex is not bothered by this Bill not only because it has zero chance to pass and zero chance to be enforced even if it is passed, plus I even quoted Jagex only has 2% children players.

It was OP who put up a discussion on what if this bill passed and what would Jagex do, so we talked about Jagex in this thread. Understand? :D :D :D

26-Jun-2019 02:29:19

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^ I know that.

As I stated much earlier in the thread, I like th.

But I don't like rs3 anymore. I don't like the lack on PvP content. I don't like clans being skiller exclusive.

I see the remove of PvP along with added clan and th as PREDITORY because pure pkers required like 500 skill total.. the game has changed and idc if jagex did it on purpose, but it is what it is... no pure pkers, so no cheap 500 skill build. Clans that well, max... MAKE A MAX! Jagex insist... so we buy more th.

I don't like that part. The removal of PvP.

Jagex aren't in my side - I want PvP.

So ill no longer be on their side. Skillet? Skill no.

So much moot.

26-Jun-2019 05:55:06 - Last edited on 26-Jun-2019 05:55:57 by Never RIP

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Never RIP said :
^ I know that.

As I stated much earlier in the thread, I like th.

But I don't like rs3 anymore. I don't like the lack on PvP content. I don't like clans being skiller exclusive.

I see the remove of PvP along with added clan and th as PREDITORY because pure pkers required like 500 skill total.. the game has changed and idc if jagex did it on purpose, but it is what it is... no pure pkers, so no cheap 500 skill build. Clans that well, max... MAKE A MAX! Jagex insist... so we buy more th.

I don't like that part. The removal of PvP.

Jagex aren't in my side - I want PvP.

So ill no longer be on their side.

Jagex did not remove PvP. You can always hop over to the Wildy.

Why should the US Congress care about what you like or don't like. Why should they care about PvP anyway? Why should they care about if "Jagex aren't in your side"?

The 1st Amendment gave all video game developers the freedom to creativities. If Jagex chose not to have "PvP' (which definitely is not the case in Runescape), so be it. It is their 1st Amendment right. And there is no MTX required for PvP whatsoever.

26-Jun-2019 18:04:43

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Oh, u're one of those type of people - that does understand English.

I didn't say us Congress care about my feelings towards the game. I said I don't like the game or complete lack of game due to the remove of PvP, as such, I'm shifting sides, away from the th saved me because now I work to win to the we hate th side.

Nothing to do with Congress recognising me..

Learn to English.

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Furthermore, I'm not really an adversary to the game. I used to like the game. I want to like it again. And to reiterate, mtx is not my problem.

I've never like, tried to sue jagex or even ever tried to cancel a payment and collect a refund. Nothing like that. That's not me. That's ridiculous behaviour. Skillet? Skill no.

So much moot.

27-Jun-2019 00:20:53 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2019 01:12:30 by Never RIP

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